I'm old school. He didn't make it out of the first movie.
If I grew up with prequels, then yeah. Chewie as well if I could fit a fourth.
nichtburningturtle@feddit.org
on 03 Feb 20:28
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On one hand, he’s the negociator. On the other hand he’s the hand and legs taker. (Whether or not you want him in the elevator, depends on the hand he chooses to take.)
CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world
on 03 Feb 22:49
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What about that boy, what was his name? Anie i think. He seems innocent enough.
Tattorack@lemmy.world
on 03 Feb 18:55
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That’s a good combo too.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Feb 19:36
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I don’t know about feeling “safe” with Han, but unsafe in a good way. Like I trust him but not myself. Artoo could probably plug in and fix the elevator, too.
C-3P0, our translator for R2’s boopspeak uses he/him pronouns for the little guy and so does at least Luke so he’s effectively masc presenting. One could argue he’s a man but the society he’s in effectively classes sentient droids as property without the reserve they do for non-artificial species and are unlikely to confer the other cultural aspects “manhood” onto a droid.
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
on 03 Feb 18:38
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Oopsie poopsie, you got Lore!
kamenlady@lemmy.world
on 03 Feb 18:53
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Ehhh debatable if Data is a “man”, and LaForge… well, he wouldn’t be on my list. My picks from TNG to share a turbolift would would be Picard, O’Brien and Riker. Picard would be either ruminating on some deep crisis or current drama and be quiet and majestic. O’Brien would be preoccupied and anxious about some project and trying to build up the courage to talk to the senior officers about it. Riker would be relaxed, polite and crack a joke that would make you chuckle.
If counting non-human male characters across ST, then Data, Odo and Spock.
Eh, he can have a temper, I know it doesn’t necessarily come up day to day but when he’s pissed he doesn’t always contain his anger. He’s safer than a lot of people but no he doesn’t make my top three. My runner up for top three male non-humans was actually Garak.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
on 04 Feb 00:18
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Sure but he would handle rejection well and laugh it off. Riker, afaicr, respected signals and consent. He flirted with people who seemed open to it and was perfectly professional to those who weren’t. What makes flirting feel unsafe is the threat of men taking it badly if rejected.
Pretty sure Data’s status was solidified in Measure of a Man. I was also keeping it era and crew consistent, so no cross-era or cross-crew groups. The reason being that it is in keeping with the meme above.
As for why I chose Data, Riker, and LaForge; for their technical problem solving skills. And that they work really well together solving technical problems. I don’t need anyone to be majestic or fret about some project. I need them to fix the elevator. XD
nathanjent@programming.dev
on 03 Feb 23:19
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1d4, and this is the order; 1 = red, 2 = yellow, 3 = blue, 4 = green.
And I got 3, so that’s blue! :D
ryathal@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Feb 18:25
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Everywhere they went people were getting kidnapped, orcs were invading, trees were coming to life, and the dead were rising. Id want to be far away from that elevator.
SARGE@startrek.website
on 03 Feb 20:05
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You take that back, I protect my marines while playing!
You know… As much as possible while charging headfirst into the most powerful empire the galaxy has seen in 100,000 years hell bent on destroying humanity and all we represent…
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Feb 22:15
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Look bro, I just handed you an entire SPNKR rocket launcher and a Scorpion jump seat, whatever you do with those afterward is no longer my concern. I’m busy driving.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 03 Feb 21:40
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Pedro Pascal, Sir Ian Mckellan, and Sir Patrick Stewart.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Feb 15:21
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I definitely wouldn’t want my human ass inside a metal box that is inconveniencing Magneto.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Feb 15:33
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But what about very kind wizards?
billiam0202@lemmy.world
on 03 Feb 18:50
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So ackshually…
Aragorn was descended from Elros who was a half-elf, but that was so long ago he may or may not be a full man depending on how racist one is about miscegenation.
Legolas was an elf and Gimli was a dwarf, so explicitly not Men.
How about Eomer and Faramir instead?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Feb 20:19
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Men as in males, yes.
Men as in humans, mostly no
VubDapple@real.lemmy.fan
on 04 Feb 02:32
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Elros and Elrond had a choice as to become Eldar or Edain. Elrond chose Eldar, while Elros chose Edain. Once they chose their mixed nature was resolved.
Not exactly, since the Númenóreans still had longer lives than Men due to their elven heritage. So while one could absolutely make the argument they were Men, there’s also a case to be made saying they weren’t pureblooded Men.
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
on 04 Feb 08:39
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The Fellowship broke apart because it wasn’t strong enough to make the journey. It never was. Bormir is the reason that the Ringbearer was able to make it away from the Fellowship’s camp and eventually to Mordor.
I didn’t say he wasn’t. I don’t fault him for it; no one could resist the power the Ring promised forever. But it’s a fact that his moment of weakness is what caused the party to split; because that’s exactly what happened.
impudentmortal@lemmy.world
on 03 Feb 20:07
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Let’s be real. We’re all NPCs so if any of the men are from something with action, we’ll probably end up dead. My pick would be Bob Ross, Mr. Rogers, and Steve Irwin. Super calming and chill
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 04 Feb 01:59
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Arnold’s got a decent number of allegations against him, but Andre would protect you so I guess it’s honestly a freebie for the other two if he’s in the mix.
Andre was a sweetheart, but a famous alcoholic. You’d have to worry about him passing out drunk. You don’t want to get crushed by a 500 pound teddy bear in a small space.
There’s a story of him passing out drunk in a hotel bar and the staff just having to let him stay the night where he fell because they couldn’t move him.
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
on 04 Feb 08:38
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I can’t believe how jacked Arnold is here. It’s truly remarkable.
Not because I think Steve would hurt anyone directly. But at any moment he may be like “would you like to see this deadly spider I’ve got in m’pocket?” And then pull out a spider that even spider scientists didn’t know existed or some shit. He would never let the spider hurt you, but you’d have a heart attack anyway.
I know, I’m just referring to this particular person’s response.
baaaaaaaaaaah@hexbear.net
on 04 Feb 01:35
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To be fair, being fictional means they’re significantly less dimensional than real people and are incapable of holding secrets.
I mean there are real people I feel absolutely safe around, but they’re just normal people I know and have built trust with. There are no famous people I can say the same for because I don’t know them personally, even if they seem good on the surface. And for fictional characters like these, we “know” Aragorn is safe because he’s written to be benevolent, we’ve read his entire life, and the author’s dead so there’s no possibility for new material to change that perception.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 04 Feb 01:55
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LotR should have started becoming public domain in America in 2023 btw
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
on 04 Feb 11:51
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it really isn’t, people comfortably stand in elevators with men all the time lol
The people you know well enough to trust them are close to you but unknown to others, so other people wouldn’t really appreciate your unswer if it was just some common unknown people. You mostly cannot bet on the character of celebrities, because you don’t know them personally (see Gaiman). Fictional characters are known by many people and their personalities are nicely described in the books, movies, whatever…
I dunno. Might take Sharpe instead of Ned Stark, good to have someone that knows how to use a rifle
tetrachromacy@lemmy.world
on 04 Feb 00:00
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Somewhat related: that’s a dream blunt rotation right there
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 04 Feb 01:53
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I feel like Gimli would hog it, Aragorn would obviously be awesome, and Legolas would be chill but you could tell he’s thinking your weed sucks, he’s got a much better connection.
tetrachromacy@lemmy.world
on 04 Feb 02:56
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Gimli, it’s a blunt, not a microphone
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
on 04 Feb 11:46
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i like to imagine that weed is the opposite of beer when it comes to elves and dwarves, elves barely even notice while dwarves start giggling when standing next to someone puffing a blunt
Oh and hobbits would of course treat it like something abjectly holy, they already take pipeweed extremely seriously and that’s just tobacco. Actual devil’s lettuce might well start hobbit cults.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
on 04 Feb 00:04
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I tried to come up with a counter argument and realized pretty quickly that I didn’t want to.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 04 Feb 01:51
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He’s got Elven heritage. He’s the 64th descendant of Elros, brother of Elrond. I think he’s also decendend from a Maiar as Elros and Elrond’s great great grandmother was Melian.
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I’d also go for Data, Riker, and LaForge.
You need O’Brien to act as a lightning rod for any misfortune.
Please… No more…
I didn’t realize there was a Miles O’Brien floating around on Lemmy!
We’re friends now. Just accept it.
Luke, Han, and R2D2.
Not Obi-wan?
I'm old school. He didn't make it out of the first movie.
If I grew up with prequels, then yeah. Chewie as well if I could fit a fourth.
On one hand, he’s the negociator. On the other hand he’s the hand and legs taker. (Whether or not you want him in the elevator, depends on the hand he chooses to take.)
What about that boy, what was his name? Anie i think. He seems innocent enough.
That’s a good combo too.
I don’t know about feeling “safe” with Han, but unsafe in a good way. Like I trust him but not myself. Artoo could probably plug in and fix the elevator, too.
Eh, I’d say R2-D2 doesn’t count as a “man” at all, being neither human nor clearly gendered in any way.
C-3P0, our translator for R2’s boopspeak uses he/him pronouns for the little guy and so does at least Luke so he’s effectively masc presenting. One could argue he’s a man but the society he’s in effectively classes sentient droids as property without the reserve they do for non-artificial species and are unlikely to confer the other cultural aspects “manhood” onto a droid.
Oopsie poopsie, you got Lore!
Also the other Riker…
I'll take Thomas Riker any day over Ensign Picard.
Thomas Riker was alright, it’s not like he’s from the mirror universe
And Geordi has gotten fixated on your engineering skills…
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Riker?
I hardly even know ‘er!
He’s charismatic and playfully flirty but receptive to signals and a good communicator. He wouldn’t do anything untoward without consent.
Sure, but you’d still come out of the elevator pregnant.
But that would happen completely consensual.
Yeah, but it might be inconvenient if you weren’t planning to become pregnant. Your husband or wife might be upset too.
LaForge is occasionally kinda creepy…
Only if there’s a particularly attractive hologram nearby. Not a problem when stuck in an elevator.
The Doctor, with his mobile emitter, disagrees.
Ehhh debatable if Data is a “man”, and LaForge… well, he wouldn’t be on my list. My picks from TNG to share a turbolift would would be Picard, O’Brien and Riker. Picard would be either ruminating on some deep crisis or current drama and be quiet and majestic. O’Brien would be preoccupied and anxious about some project and trying to build up the courage to talk to the senior officers about it. Riker would be relaxed, polite and crack a joke that would make you chuckle.
If counting non-human male characters across ST, then Data, Odo and Spock.
I mean… No Worf? I feel like he’d be the safest choice together with Data
Eh, he can have a temper, I know it doesn’t necessarily come up day to day but when he’s pissed he doesn’t always contain his anger. He’s safer than a lot of people but no he doesn’t make my top three. My runner up for top three male non-humans was actually Garak.
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He’s a cutie! What temper?
Cheery Littlebottom?
Can’t recall him hurting anyone out of anger.
Plus zen-Worf is about the only good thing that came out of PIC. Love the look as well.
non-zero chance Riker tries to flirt with you
Sure but he would handle rejection well and laugh it off. Riker, afaicr, respected signals and consent. He flirted with people who seemed open to it and was perfectly professional to those who weren’t. What makes flirting feel unsafe is the threat of men taking it badly if rejected.
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I’ll choose chaos. Picard, Riker, and Q.
I feel like you’d have more chaos with Picard, Martok, and Q
Mariner, Martok, and Q
I said chaos, not Galaxy wide devastation
Pretty sure Data’s status was solidified in Measure of a Man. I was also keeping it era and crew consistent, so no cross-era or cross-crew groups. The reason being that it is in keeping with the meme above.
As for why I chose Data, Riker, and LaForge; for their technical problem solving skills. And that they work really well together solving technical problems. I don’t need anyone to be majestic or fret about some project. I need them to fix the elevator. XD
Now roll for shirt color.
Alright.
1d4, and this is the order; 1 = red, 2 = yellow, 3 = blue, 4 = green.
And I got 3, so that’s blue! :D
Everywhere they went people were getting kidnapped, orcs were invading, trees were coming to life, and the dead were rising. Id want to be far away from that elevator.
They probably wouldn’t be that familiar with the workings of a lift either
Only one of them.
But Legolas could poke out the ceiling panel with the tip of his bow and Aragorn could boost Gimli up with a rope.
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You take that back, I protect my marines while playing!
You know… As much as possible while charging headfirst into the most powerful empire the galaxy has seen in 100,000 years hell bent on destroying humanity and all we represent…
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Look bro, I just handed you an entire SPNKR rocket launcher and a Scorpion jump seat, whatever you do with those afterward is no longer my concern. I’m busy driving.
You know for a fact that they'll literally coming charging across the countryside to rescue you though
Not much countryside for the charging in most elevators, though 🤔
Just put me with Pedro Pascal, in any role.
Pedro Pascal, Sir Ian Mckellan, and Sir Patrick Stewart.
I definitely wouldn’t want my human ass inside a metal box that is inconveniencing Magneto.
But what about very kind wizards?
So ackshually…
Aragorn was descended from Elros who was a half-elf, but that was so long ago he may or may not be a full man depending on how racist one is about miscegenation.
Legolas was an elf and Gimli was a dwarf, so explicitly not Men.
How about Eomer and Faramir instead?
Men as in males, yes.
Men as in humans, mostly no
Elros and Elrond had a choice as to become Eldar or Edain. Elrond chose Eldar, while Elros chose Edain. Once they chose their mixed nature was resolved.
Not exactly, since the Númenóreans still had longer lives than Men due to their elven heritage. So while one could absolutely make the argument they were Men, there’s also a case to be made saying they weren’t pureblooded Men.
one drop
Boromir would’ve made them feel safer.
Faramir didn’t try to take the Ring from Frodo, unlike Boromir.
Boromir literally picked the ring up and handed it back to Frodo. He was tested and passed.
The Fellowship broke apart because Boromir tried to take the Ring from Frodo at Amon Hen and Frodo used it to disappear and run from him.
The Fellowship broke apart because it wasn’t strong enough to make the journey. It never was. Bormir is the reason that the Ringbearer was able to make it away from the Fellowship’s camp and eventually to Mordor.
He was a hero. He lived as one and died as one.
I didn’t say he wasn’t. I don’t fault him for it; no one could resist the power the Ring promised forever. But it’s a fact that his moment of weakness is what caused the party to split; because that’s exactly what happened.
first 3 celebridudes that popped into my head:
Tom Hanks, Keannu Reaves, and Willie Nelson.
Also, Patrick Stewart.
totally could get down or up (elevator joke) with sirpatstew
You are NOT safe from Willie. He will get you SOOO high.
exactly why he’s on the list. I’m secretly trying to get to Hanks that high so he can laugh like he did in money pit.
Devious…
Hanks would probably try to pee on your feet if you got him that high.
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Let’s be real. We’re all NPCs so if any of the men are from something with action, we’ll probably end up dead. My pick would be Bob Ross, Mr. Rogers, and Steve Irwin. Super calming and chill
Steve was an amazing person but I wouldn’t describe him as chill.
He was pure overwhelming enthusiastic energy.
“Speed into one nostril, coke into the other”-energy
Fair point. Well, he’ll balance out the other two then. It’ll be like drugs (I assume), two downers and one upper
I never imagined I’d ever see someone compare Mr. Rogers to drugs, but here we are.
Enhanced
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Is this AI?
Sadly. There’s no other copies of this meme that’s not infested by the jpegs. I didn’t have time to find the source to recreate it.
Now, however… hold my beer.
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Oh God. That’s horrifying.
The meme from OP is not much better, though.
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The jpegs are very scary.
Is the elevator spacious?
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Arnold’s got a decent number of allegations against him, but Andre would protect you so I guess it’s honestly a freebie for the other two if he’s in the mix.
Andre was a sweetheart, but a famous alcoholic. You’d have to worry about him passing out drunk. You don’t want to get crushed by a 500 pound teddy bear in a small space.
There’s a story of him passing out drunk in a hotel bar and the staff just having to let him stay the night where he fell because they couldn’t move him.
I can’t believe how jacked Arnold is here. It’s truly remarkable.
Thats not even his peak, he was more jacked as Hercules and in the first Terminator film imo, before his movie career.
True that.
Ok I recognise Andre and Arnold, who’s the dude on the left?
Wilt Chamberlain.
The only NBA player to individually score 100 points in a game.
The fact that they had to go to fictional characters is significant.
also that 2 of them aren’t men
I would take “men” to just mean “male people,” since it’s not being asked in the context of a fantasy world.
Good point!
Okay, real world examples from me (notably, a big dude, so y’know, probably not as in tune to things as I could be):
Bernie Sanders My brother My Uncle
… I… Really thought I’d have better options until I really started thinking about it
Yeah. Same issue here. So how about:
Bob Ross. Carl Sagan. Steve Irwin.
I’d swap Steve for Bernie.
Not because I think Steve would hurt anyone directly. But at any moment he may be like “would you like to see this deadly spider I’ve got in m’pocket?” And then pull out a spider that even spider scientists didn’t know existed or some shit. He would never let the spider hurt you, but you’d have a heart attack anyway.
I think he’d respect the spider enough not to keep it in a pocket. Though Bernie seems popular in the comments too.
We’re in the LOTR community, the sample may be a little biased
Yes, but the person who responded to the question wasn’t in a LOTR community.
All the other people who answered weren’t posted here
I know, I’m just referring to this particular person’s response.
To be fair, being fictional means they’re significantly less dimensional than real people and are incapable of holding secrets.
I mean there are real people I feel absolutely safe around, but they’re just normal people I know and have built trust with. There are no famous people I can say the same for because I don’t know them personally, even if they seem good on the surface. And for fictional characters like these, we “know” Aragorn is safe because he’s written to be benevolent, we’ve read his entire life, and the author’s dead so there’s no possibility for new material to change that perception.
LotR should have started becoming public domain in America in 2023 btw
it really isn’t, people comfortably stand in elevators with men all the time lol
The people you know well enough to trust them are close to you but unknown to others, so other people wouldn’t really appreciate your unswer if it was just some common unknown people. You mostly cannot bet on the character of celebrities, because you don’t know them personally (see Gaiman). Fictional characters are known by many people and their personalities are nicely described in the books, movies, whatever…
I’d choose: Boromir, Ned Stark, and Sean Bean.
No way anything bad can happen to me with those magnets around.
The whole elevator would just crash through the foundation. You’d be collateral when Death gets a 3 for 1 final destination style.
Nah, I think it’d go more like this:
Jᴀᴄᴋᴘᴏᴛ.
I dunno. Might take Sharpe instead of Ned Stark, good to have someone that knows how to use a rifle
Somewhat related: that’s a dream blunt rotation right there
I feel like Gimli would hog it, Aragorn would obviously be awesome, and Legolas would be chill but you could tell he’s thinking your weed sucks, he’s got a much better connection.
Gimli, it’s a blunt, not a microphone
i like to imagine that weed is the opposite of beer when it comes to elves and dwarves, elves barely even notice while dwarves start giggling when standing next to someone puffing a blunt
Oh and hobbits would of course treat it like something abjectly holy, they already take pipeweed extremely seriously and that’s just tobacco. Actual devil’s lettuce might well start hobbit cults.
I tried to come up with a counter argument and realized pretty quickly that I didn’t want to.
I mean, they’re objectively correct.
What’s the counter-argument ? Let’s hear it
Christopher Reeves, Stephen Hawking, Teddy Pendergrass
Idk about Stephen Hawking
i mean, i guess i’d feel safe, but probably not super comfortable, given that they are all three very dead.
If they’re dead and in the elevator, are they still in wheelchairs?
Mr Rogers, Bob Ross, Steve Irwin
Harvey Specter, Mike Ross, and Louis Litt.
I don’t know; can you name three bears that women would feel safer with?
Barenstain?
bear in the big blue house is one, for sure. he wouldn’t even need violence to stave off nasty people, he’d just make them feel bad.
Not if yer a fucken orc!
Figures that the safest men to be stuck with aren’t human men.
Aragorn?
He’s got Elven heritage. He’s the 64th descendant of Elros, brother of Elrond. I think he’s also decendend from a Maiar as Elros and Elrond’s great great grandmother was Melian.
He’s 87 years old at the start of LOTR.
He descends from Elros the Half-Elf.
Yeah, but that just makes him a much-better-than-average human.
My two older brothers and my dad
Three guys wearing a red shirt
three clones of tom scott, who say “we are standing in an elevator going to the 5th floor” in perfect unison as you enter
Sourced from the island of Tom Scotts.
Honestly if I was a woman any dude in life. Maybe even those goth dudes on black horses. Def the trees tho. They Hott af
Harry Houdini, Angus MacGyver, and James Randi
I think all of them are dead, I’m not sure I will be safe with a bunch of dead people in the elevator
Richard Dean Anderson/MacGyver/General O’Neil is alive.
Don’t scare me like that!
His first name is Angus?
Hate to be contrary but I’d think you couldn’t be safer if they were all dead
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LOTR spoiler
Aragorn is dead too!
Can we do 2 adult men and a bear?
At the same time?
It’s the Internet, we can do anything.
3x
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Physically safe - but you’re gonna get sassed to within an inch of your life.