The bucket falling is what disturbed the gobbos who in turn woke Durin’s Bane. That or the bucket straight up woke the balrog. It’s not entirely clear but Pippin is for sure responsible.
the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Dec 16:23
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That or the bucket straight up woke the balrog.
Yo maybe pippin’s bucket hit the balrogs noggin and took the 1hp necessary for Gandalf to win. Eh? Ehh?
They were doing a pretty good job of going unnoticed until Pippin dropped stuff down the well.
Might have made it over the bridge without getting attacked at all.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
on 08 Dec 15:10
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Might recall wrong but Frodo did not destroy the One Ring, didn’t he? He tried to protect it and use it but tripped on a meat-hungry Gollum at the last second.
That’s a great take. I never considered that the ring’s machinations essentially led to its own destruction.
Chainweasel@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 16:08
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Gandalf woke the Balrog.
It’s an abandoned mine, things are going to fall and make noise from time to time and they’re probably used to it.
You know what doesn’t happen all the time in a mine?
People don’t yell “Fool of a Took!” In the language of your sworn enemy at the top of their lungs.
Technically it’s not how it happened in the book IIRC. Nobody was throwing corpses into that well. Just stones. And it wasn’t in the hall of Mazarbul. It was in some guards’ room near the gate.
Their entry into Moria, bothering the nice guy guarding it, was enough to wake the Balrog.
iceonfire1@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 18:07
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Yeah, but he also brought Treebeard to Isengard, leading the ents to overthrow Saruman. Did that not make the list?
He did plenty. In the movie he lit the beacon to call Rohan. Fought in the battle for Minas Tirith, where he saved Gandalf’s life. Saved Faramir’s life. Saved Merry’s life.
Sauron himself questioned Pippin and came away with the conclusion that he should apply his army and attention toward Minas Tirith and Gondor rather than continuing to look for the real ring-bearer right under his nose. Essentially made the entire gambit with Frodo possible.
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JUSTICE FOR PIPPIN
But what about second Gandalf?
Pippin helped Gandalf level up. Just in a roundabout way.
merely a flesh wound
Yeah, not sure if “killed Gandalf” but definitely “got Gandalf killed” is more accurate.
Im about to look a fool but i just rewatched the trilogy again a month or 2 ago and cannot think of how the balrogg is his fault? The noise?
The bucket falling is what disturbed the gobbos who in turn woke Durin’s Bane. That or the bucket straight up woke the balrog. It’s not entirely clear but Pippin is for sure responsible.
Yo maybe pippin’s bucket hit the balrogs noggin and took the 1hp necessary for Gandalf to win. Eh? Ehh?
*reluctant gaze-avoiding high five*
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They were doing a pretty good job of going unnoticed until Pippin dropped stuff down the well.
Might have made it over the bridge without getting attacked at all.
Might recall wrong but Frodo did not destroy the One Ring, didn’t he? He tried to protect it and use it but tripped on a meat-hungry Gollum at the last second.
Yes, I think the most accurate version is Gollum accidentally destroyed it while stealing it from Frodo.
"Accidentally"
Eru Ilúvatar chuckles
“When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.” -
GodEruIt’s “war story”, not “war facts”!
He got it closer than most ever could. Give him some credit.
Fair point, he literally got it at just a finger’s length to destruction.
Frodo could carry the ring and remain undetected.
Sam could carry Frodo and remain uncorrupted.
Sam took the ring bearer to Mt. Doom where the ring destroyed itself.
That’s a great take. I never considered that the ring’s machinations essentially led to its own destruction.
Gandalf woke the Balrog.
It’s an abandoned mine, things are going to fall and make noise from time to time and they’re probably used to it.
You know what doesn’t happen all the time in a mine?
People don’t yell “Fool of a Took!” In the language of your sworn enemy at the top of their lungs.
Yeah and I feel like the Balrog could sense the presence of a Maiar nearby.
But maybe that’s just a Star Wars Force thing, I don’t really know how magic works in LOTR.
It works the way that the happy tentacle owner and Balrog and Orcs were working together to exterminate Balin’s expedition.
Technically it’s not how it happened in the book IIRC. Nobody was throwing corpses into that well. Just stones. And it wasn’t in the hall of Mazarbul. It was in some guards’ room near the gate.
Their entry into Moria, bothering the nice guy guarding it, was enough to wake the Balrog.
Yeah, but he also brought Treebeard to Isengard, leading the ents to overthrow Saruman. Did that not make the list?
He did plenty. In the movie he lit the beacon to call Rohan. Fought in the battle for Minas Tirith, where he saved Gandalf’s life. Saved Faramir’s life. Saved Merry’s life.
Sauron himself questioned Pippin and came away with the conclusion that he should apply his army and attention toward Minas Tirith and Gondor rather than continuing to look for the real ring-bearer right under his nose. Essentially made the entire gambit with Frodo possible.
This has been a pro-Pippin PSA
He was technically responsible for the deaths of two of the most powerful beings in his universe. Pippin is the OG Kratos.
got better in the sense that he recovered and improved, so its a double-win if you think about it.
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