the amount of slop saying "wait till the end" is too damn high
from hydration9806@lemmy.ml to nonpolitical_memes@lemmy.ml on 26 Dec 2024 18:14
https://lemmy.ml/post/24058543

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/23555611

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Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 2024 19:03 next collapse

Always has been. 🔫

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 2024 19:07 next collapse

“Wait for it” - I’m like… bitch, why don’t you just add some fast forwarding to the vid, or just cut out the unimportant parts?

don@lemm.ee on 26 Dec 2024 19:24 next collapse

Because the tube is all about watchtime and engagement. Engagement includes any interaction with the video, such as comments and downvotes.

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 2024 19:25 next collapse

Ugh, this is even worse now, since the dislikes are hidden.

Baku@aussie.zone on 26 Dec 2024 19:53 next collapse

ReturnYouTubeDislike and DeArrow/SponsorBlock are your best friends. Even available in ReVanced for Android

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 2024 19:58 next collapse

Those are only using the ratio of likes and disliles of the users using those extensions.

So it can bias in a way that, say (this is an example, idk if this is true), the users of the extension are more “anti-windows” than the general population. So a video on the announcement of a new Windows release, would show as having more dislikes since the ratio of people who dislike Windows is higher.

(That’s how I understand the extension anyway, correct me if I’m wrong)

Baku@aussie.zone on 26 Dec 2024 20:03 collapse

Pretty much spot on. I believe they also saved the dislike counts on lots of videos from before the dislike removal, so it’s only new dislikes not reflected accurately

Also, you can help fix the bias! The more people using the extension and disliking things they for like, the more accurate it’ll become

(There were also plans for some kind of API that would link to YouTube accounts to allow content creators to feed the true dislike counts into it constantly, but I believe they were abandoned due to privacy and safety concerns as it required a lot of permissions and essentially root level access into your account to function)

don@lemm.ee on 26 Dec 2024 22:37 collapse

I’d also add DeArrow to remove clickbait thumbnails and titles, and Untrap to completely modify nearly everything, such as removing (hiding, really) shorts, like count, view count, comments altogether, even hiding the subscribe button among many other options.

don@lemm.ee on 26 Dec 2024 22:33 collapse

Depending on your browser, you can look for a “bring back the dislikes” extension. There are usually a few.

Really the only way to make an impact on a video you dislike is to watch as little as possible and do not interact at all. Leave no comment or like/dislike.

Which really sucks, because information like # of dislikes and informative comments are the only real way to determine if the content is worth the time.

psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 2024 20:30 collapse

The wild part is, at least on tiktok, downvoting or selecting “not interested” seems to give me MORE of that content. It’s as if leaving the video on your screen for longer is giving that video more points in the algo than your expressed disinterest. What works better (on tiktok) is to scroll away with the minimum amount of time spent looking at the video.

Makes me appreciate when there’s a big message in the first second that says “wait until the end!” I swipe so fast when I see that. Otherwise I might have to wait to hear what they’re doing in this video, which would boost them in the algorithm.

Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc on 27 Dec 2024 06:16 collapse

At least on youtube you can skip ahead. But whenever i see these caption or those very obnoxiously descriptive short, i’ll hit downvote and content like these won’t shows up as much.

i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca on 26 Dec 2024 19:15 next collapse

The short video version of “you gotta watch this show I love. Just suffer through the first 12 seasons and it gets SO GOOD!”

buh@hexbear.net on 26 Dec 2024 19:35 next collapse

nobody:

absolutely nobody:

Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Dec 2024 22:56 next collapse

“Read that again”

Fuck you, I wish I could unread it from the first time.

isles@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 2024 02:39 next collapse

It’s as if their incentives (increased view time) drive behavior

AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml on 27 Dec 2024 07:18 next collapse

Op also used those words so should we down vote them?

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 27 Dec 2024 07:40 next collapse

If they could spell it correctly, it’d be better.

Thcdenton@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 2024 08:18 collapse

I get very little of this since i disabled youtube history