from Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz to privacy@lemmy.ml on 07 Jul 10:45
https://sopuli.xyz/post/48384425
I just watched the EU parliament plenary and they just voted in favor of Chat Control. I can’t understand what’s going on in their head. The last speaker before the vote had very good points.
I think we should now verify who voted in favor and have all their communications be public from now on.
Edit: name and shame below.
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ECR - Axinia, Bielan, Brudziński, Geadi, Gosiewska, Jaki, Kamiński, Kanko, Maląg, Ruissen, Rzońca, Teodorescu, Van Dijck, Van Overtveldt, Wiśniewska, Zalewska, Złotowski PPE - Aaltola, Abadía Jover, Adamowicz, Aftias, Agius, Arimont, Arłukowicz, Beke, Beleris, Bellamy, Benjumea Benjumea, Bentele, Berger, Bernhuber, Bogdan, Brejza, Brnjac, Buda Daniel, Budka, Bugalho, Buła, Carberry, Casa, del Castillo Vera, Černilec Tomašič, Crespo Díaz, Cunha, Dahl, Dávid, de la Hoz Quintano, De Meo, Doherty, Doleschal, do Nascimento Cabral, Dorfmann, Düpont, Ehler, Estaràs Ferragut, Ezcurra Almansa, Falcă, Falcone, Farský, Ferber, Fourlas, Gahler, Gasiuk-Pihowicz, Geuking, Gieseke, Giménez Larraz, Glavak, Gomart, González Pons, Gotink, Gronkiewicz-Waltz, Hadjipantela, Halicki, Hansen, Hava, Herbst, Herranz García, Hetman, Humberto, Imart, Jarubas, Joński, Juknevičienė, Kalniete, Kefalogiannis, Kelly, Kemp, Kircher, Köhler, Kohut, Kokalari, Kolář, Kollár, Koning, Kopacz, Kovatchev, Kulja, Lakos, Lanig, Lazarov, Le Callennec, Lenaers, Lewandowski, Lexmann, Liese, Lins, Lopatka, López-Istúriz White, Łukacijewska, McAllister, Mandl, Marczułajtis-Walczak, Martusciello, Mato, Mažylis, Mehnert, Meimarakis, Meleti, Mertens, Millán Mon, Montserrat, Morano, Moratti, Motreanu, Mureşan, Navarrete Rojas, Nerudová, Nevado del Campo, Niebler, Niedermayer, Novakov, Nykiel, Pascual de la Parte, Pedro, Pereira, Pietikäinen, Polfjärd, Popescu, Princi, Protas, Radev, Radtke, Ratas, Ressler, Ripa, Salini, Saudargas, Schenk, Schwab, Seekatz, Sienkiewicz, Simon, Sokol, Solís Pérez, Sommen, Sousa Silva, Stier, Szczerba, Teodorescu Måwe, Ter Laak, Tobé, Tomc, Tonin, Tosi, Toveri, Tsiodras, Vaidere, Vălean, Verheyen, Vincze, Voss, Vozemberg-Vrionidi, Vázquez Lázara, Walsh, Walsmann, Warborn, Wawrykiewicz, Wcisło, Weber, Wechsler, WEISZ, Winkler, Winzig, Wiseler-Lima, Zarzalejos, Zdechovský, Zdrojewski, Zoido Álvarez, Zovko PfE - Androuët, Bay Christophe, Birkholm, Brasier-Clain, Bžoch, Castillo, Dauchy, Deloge, Deutsch, Disdier, Dömötör, Dostalova, Ferenc, Frigout, Furet, Győri, Gyürk, Hölvényi, Jamet, Knotek, Knot, László, Leggeri, Nagyová, Nikolic, Pennelle, Pokorná Jermanová, Rechagneux, Rougé, Szekeres, Thionnet, Valet, Varaut, Vicsek Renew - Allione, Andrews, Azmani, Baljeu, Boyer, Canfin, Cassart, Chastel, Decerle, Devaux, Farreng, Goerens, Gozi, Groothuis, Grudler, Guetta, Henriksson, Katainen, Kelleher, Keller, Kulmuni, Loiseau, Ní Mhurchú, Picierno, Tomac, Van Brug, Verougstraete, Wilmès S&D - Andriukaitis, Angel, Annunziata, Arnaoutoglou, Ballarín Cereza, Biedroń, Blinkevičiūtė, Bonaccini, Cârciu, Cepeda, Clergeau, Cristea, Danielsson, Dibrani, Di Rupo, Dobrev, Eriksson, Farantouris, Firea, Fita, Franqueira Rodrigues, Fritzon, Fuglsang, Gálvez, García Pérez, Germain, Glucksmann, Gómez López, Gonçalves Sérgio, González Casares, Grapini, Grossmann, Guzenina, Heide, Heinäluoma, Homs Ginel, Incir, Jalloul Muro, Laureti, López, López Aguilar, Luena, Maestre, Manda, Maniatis, Mavrides, Mebarek, Mendes, Mendia, Molnár, Moreno Sánchez, Moretti, Muşoiu, Nardella, Negrescu, Nica, Noichl, Ó Ríordáin, Pajín, Papandreou, Pellerin-Carlin, Penkova, Ricci, Ros Sempere, Sánchez Amor, Sancho Murillo, Sargiacomo, Schaldemose, Scheuring-Wielgus, Schieder, Serrano Sierra, Sidl, Śmiszek, Tarquinio, Tavares, Temido, Topo, Tramacere, Vind, Zingaretti
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Fuck, how do I do a multiline spoiler? 😂
ugh
I managed somehow.
the lust for power
So this actually happened? Fuck me, thats bad news. I only just found out it was happening and it’s already done
And why the fuck are we accepting that in the first place? Get your asses to work!
I think its pretty simple; with climate change and pollution comes environmental collapse and starvation. Clean water, food and other ressources will become even harder to obtain. Desperate people will be more likely to turn to exremism and civil unrest will increase. Our politicians know this and are trying to get into a position where they can stay in power and not be eaten. Obviously with hindsight it would probably have been better for everyone involved if we had taken the necessary steps to protect our climate and ecosystems a few centuries ago, but that doesnt get you elected and doesnt matter to you if you are going to rule just for the next 5 years or so.
Oh and the funniest thing about this is that the real bad actors can just circumvent this by adding a second layer or encryption to their messages that the authorities cannot access.
Everyone should archive a local copy of the GPG source.
Let me grab a copy of OpenPGP as well while we’re at it.
Every payment sent, every penny received, every communication, every deal that they try to strike should all be publicised as they seem to forget which direction the transparency should be.
Also put up a camera ANYWHERE they go. No disabling. Let them face their own consequences.
Private texts? Donations? Stocks? Ok, all of that is confiscated and published.
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Capitalism
Is this the old Chat Control 1.0 or the new Chat Control 2.0?
Extension of Chat Control V1.0
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The thing is, most if them won’t get money. Pretty sure they just have no idea what it’s about.
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Use an P2P chat and show the middle finger to the chat control. Official chats, like WhatsCrap and similar are anyway controled since ever.
we should be thinking about what the rich elites are thinking instead. and nazis like alex karp and peter thiel are openly telling us they want technofascism.
politicians are simply just paid to do their jobs of catering to said elites. they are only really meaningful for the theater of it.
this is some next level lobbying, to even push this so hard and while some of the opposition wont even be there, this is incredible, but i dont get it, even if you pass this through where is the infrastructure to handle all of this?? all in all this is just disgusting level of lobbying
Remember that this is just about the extension in time of the already existing chat control V1.0. We have to continue fighting because there is a lot of potential for this to get worse.
What the fuck do we do now?
Please, at least send an email to them: fightchatcontrol.eu
I did, not for the first time, but it did not work. It passed, despite a majority voting against it (314:276), because it was not an “absolute majority” (361 votes). What a farce.
Keep that list near you, because the subject is gonna come back…
The problem ia that you’re assuming their decisions are in good faith. They’re very much not. Chat control = control. Destroying privacy only benefits the local gov.
I’m not assuming their decisions are in good faith. I’m assuming they represent/belong to a party with guidelines and are voting publicly.
And it shows. The left and the greens have voted with consistency against. Just to many no-shows to make a difference, however there were no-shows from both sides.
But, the slight left, soc-dems, or however they are called, and center, has, with very little exceptions (which I salute), exclusively voted for it. And this is not according to my understanding of the guidelines but I suppose this is subject to interpretations.