from Anonymous@sopuli.xyz to privacy@lemmy.ml on 30 Apr 13:53
https://sopuli.xyz/post/44942739
A few questions that have been on my mind:
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How do you handle apps that refuse to run on rooted/jailbroken phones or on devices without Google Play Services? Can microG, Xposed, or other tools help in practice? (F*ck Play Integrity and “Google Play license check”). Can I bypass those restrictions without rooting?
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Have you ever rooted your phone? Any practical advice for someone considering it? I don’t have a phone I know is compatible with alternative ROMs (e.g., LineageOS), so I’m leaning toward rooting and would appreciate recommendations or warnings.
There is fact that in my country (Vietnam), banks are required to block banking apps from running on rooted or jailbroken phones. The State Bank of Vietnam introduced Circular 77/2025/TT‑NHNN, which mandates this.
Some other questions:
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How often do you need to show ID where you live (hospitals, government offices, large transactions, etc.)? For example, in my country I always have to show ID (or use face ID) at places like hospitals or when making large transactions.
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How is eID implemented in your country? Does your government require or strongly encourage using eID apps? Are they widely adopted? (I know the EU’s planned age‑verification app is a form of eID—or not really. Real examples are Germany’s AusweisApp and Vietnam’s VNeID. Anyway, that age‑verification law should not exist).
Any experiences or advice are appreciated. Thanks a lot.
(I may add more questions later. Sorry in advance if I ask too many 😶).
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(from France)
My phone is not rooted. I barely used it, like barely at all (I only have the required apps I need to access to, not a single app more), so I don’t need to tweak it in any way.
I show my ID when I’m required to.
Sorry I cannot help you more than that.
(from United States)
(from USA)
Last time I used a clinic (stitches, not an overnight stay), they wanted to know who I am. But I did not have to show ID. It makes sense, they need to know who I am. They keep track of medications and things. It’s been also true for routine vaccinations. They ask my name and age when I check in. And they want insurance info ofc. But never asked for an ID.
I have to show an ID to buy alcohol. But they do not copy or record it so I do not mind. The clerk simply looks at it to verify my age. Takes like 3 seconds. No copy is made. I’m cool with it.
I have to show ID to open a bank account. Two forms! And they do record it! That did not used to be true here. But now it is, KYC laws.
I have never used any form of face ID. Well not on purpose! Some stores may use FR outside my control. I’ve never used FR with a phone, I mean.
I’ve been researching the history of privacy. It seems World War I was the beginning of the adoption of identity documents (e.g. passports). Every time a major war happened, it got worse and worse.
(From South America)
About phones, same advice as monovergent, i use a separate phone for things that require google and another one for work. It’s not ideal since they probably can correlate them, but it’s the best compromise i found.
About ID, you are required to show it for most of the things you ask, which I think is reasonable. We don’t have face id thankfully yet
The best thing you can do is leave feedback so that the developers fix it themselves. Rooting is not advised for security reasons.
No. I was fortunate enough to be able to flash GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel. You should know that you can debloat stock using something like Universal Android Debloater Next Generation. That provides more privacy without compromise to much of the security. Rooting gives you full control but is a major security regression because you have full control.
I’ve opted out of most institutions in the United States, but the most frequent times I show my ID are for employment, cashing paychecks, and any government-related things (e.g. obtaining a driver’s license, opening a post office box, etc.)
eID hasn’t been widely adopted here, at least not yet.
Yeah, I do use Canta for bloatware removal, but there are some bloatware and system apps I can’t remove.
The uncertain amount of privacy I can have with it, and my desire of bypassing Play Integrity and Google Play license check too, are why rooting is one of the options I’m considering.
Portable phone: GOS
Desk phone (wifi only): opionated apps that won’t run on GoS… so basically banking
Rooting a phone: it changes your security model, so it’s really about the risk reward payoff. Your risk surface area expands greatly.
In general look at something like qubes, even if you won’t run it, it’s a good thought experiment to see how you would segment things into indivisible risk domains and workflows