Just got this popup whilst trying to open a website using archive.is
from IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 19 May 13:02
https://lemmy.world/post/47060442

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eager_eagle@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:05 next collapse

crosspost it to c/actually_infuriating

monovergent@lemmy.ml on 19 May 13:07 next collapse

That really stinks. Does the audio version do anything different?

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:34 collapse

I did not try it and have closed the window after the popup because it was too ridiculous. I was able to find an article about this, looks like the rollout started a week ago cybernews.com/…/google-qr-code-recaptcha-requires…

jjlinux@lemmy.zip on 20 May 20:37 collapse

This is beyond insane. ‘An approved device’. So, my device has to be approved by a fucking company. This is where all this bullshit has led. Companies now get to dictate the life of every person in the world. I’m going to be spending a lot of time away from the internet moving forward. Thank God we have Lemmy.

GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone on 19 May 13:15 next collapse

this must be a rickroll, right?

warmaster@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:33 next collapse

Scan this QR code with your moble device to verify if you have been rickrolled. reCAPTCHA protects you from rickrolling and will not give you up and share your details with rickrollers nor it will let you down and desert you.

eager_eagle@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:52 next collapse

tbh I’d rather have a 5% chance of being rickrolled for each link I click for the rest of my life than having this stupid invasive captcha everywhere

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 May 14:00 next collapse

How are people surprised by this??? This change has been constantly in the news for weeks now. How are people missing this? Its basically googles way to bypass all the backlash to age verification, because most phones are linked to peoples identity, phone number, etc.

cybernews.com/…/google-qr-code-recaptcha-requires…

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 20 May 09:09 collapse

In hindsight I should have edited the QR code to redirect to that.

Godort@lemmy.ca on 19 May 13:29 next collapse

I would assume this was trying to deliver malware if I ever saw it

Serinus@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:34 next collapse

Probably still is. Scan it and let us know if you get malware.

Serinus@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:37 collapse

It’s goes to recapt cha.net/qr/mMs9S9g8

(Space addes to break the link.)

sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today on 20 May 00:22 next collapse

It’ll certainly cause more people to get malware by normalizing people to scan QR codes on a whim without thinking

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it on 21 May 08:19 collapse

And then google will sya “we think about the users security!!! That’s why i will not let you install apps outside the playstore” Fuck Shitoogle

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 20 May 12:59 collapse

It arguably is malware.

[deleted] on 19 May 13:33 next collapse

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voxel@feddit.uk on 19 May 13:35 next collapse

The following for furthur info: thebrainbin.org/m/degoogle@lemmy.ml/p/678383

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 20:33 collapse

Is it legit that Anubis needs cookies?

smh@slrpnk.net on 20 May 20:42 collapse

IIRC Anubis uses cookies so that the website doesn’t test you again for X amount of time.

edit From the Anubis docs: anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/…/redirect-domains (behind Anubis)

Solumbran@lemmy.world on 19 May 13:41 next collapse

Good thing that everyone has a smartphone as a secondary device. God forbid you would not be able to scan a QR code, what are we, the middle ages?!?! (and I’m not even starting on the absurdity of why you would want to do it, that’s another point)

JohnDarlen@lemmy.today on 19 May 13:46 next collapse

Any service implementing this shit will be on my list of never using it again. Even if my bank do such shit I’ll be moving to another one. Zero tolerancy. This is beyond the limits.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 20 May 01:05 next collapse

I agree, and this is strictly because Google wants to kill forks like Graphene OS. Anybody who implements this is going to get their tab immediately closed on my browser and I’m never going back. I will have zero tolerance for this.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 20:32 collapse

And also their domain will be in my deny filters. Fuck this.

freijon@lemmy.zip on 20 May 04:07 collapse

It’s easy to say this now. But what if, in a few years, 90% of websites and service providers use this?

regedit@lemmy.zip on 20 May 11:35 collapse

I’ll be done using the internet!

overcast@lemmy.zip on 19 May 13:55 next collapse

oh no, it’s already happening… I must be ready

Damage@feddit.it on 19 May 14:09 next collapse

Btw I suggest URLCheck on F-Droid, it registers as a browser and allows you to check, clean, un-shorten links and so on before opening them

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 20:26 collapse

Does it actually correct the links for you? Like use invideous rather than YouTube or correct the useless parameters automatically?

Damage@feddit.it on 20 May 21:12 collapse

you should be able to use the pattern module for that

melfie@lemmy.zip on 19 May 14:25 next collapse

reCAPTCHA protects. your privacy and does not share your details with this website or app.

We foxes promise not to let any predators into the henhouse.

hopesdead@startrek.website on 19 May 14:49 next collapse

A some recently website someone shared showed, there are some bits of data you automatically share with websites without them asking.

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 May 17:04 collapse

Did I just have a stroke, or is this comment incomprehensible to everyone else too?

hopesdead@startrek.website on 19 May 17:28 next collapse

Sorry, I was like half asleep. I can’t find it, there was a website I saw shared somewhere on Lemmy that showed you all the info you automatically shared when visiting a website and it pointed out stuff that they collected without even asking for it. The implication is that your device gives websites data involuntarily; the website wasn’t asking for it.

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 May 18:20 next collapse

Coveryourtracks.eff.org

Griffus@lemmy.zip on 19 May 19:04 collapse

Funny that it just doesn’t work with JS disabled.

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 May 19:28 collapse

Disabling js disables breaks fingerprinting, but also breaks a lot of websites

Griffus@lemmy.zip on 19 May 19:34 collapse

So funny that a site about tracking needs more tracking to work.

DanWolfstone@leminal.space on 19 May 22:03 next collapse

sinceyouarrived.world/taken

Is the link that got posted recently, I’m unsure by who though, if someone finds the link please post it here!

hopesdead@startrek.website on 19 May 22:05 collapse

Yes, this is the one!

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it on 21 May 08:22 collapse
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 May 17:43 collapse

Yope iourem squeegee squeegee squeegee Tuesday, May 19th at

purplemonkeymad@programming.dev on 19 May 18:22 next collapse

They said it wasn’t shared with the website. They didn’t say it wasn’t shared with anyone at all.

FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works on 19 May 20:15 next collapse

Reminds me of those privacy policies. “We don’t sell your data!” in the big type. When you dig more into the fine print… they don’t! But they do “share it within their partner family of companies”. And then THOSE companies sell it. Or sometimes, sell inferences made from it, even if not sell the data.

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world on 19 May 21:13 collapse

Yeah, they’re just sharing your info with their 1000+ “legitimate interest” partners. Nothing sketchy about that, no sir.

unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml on 20 May 18:06 collapse

reCAPTCHA protects. your privacy

I love how they used that period. Seems way better than that lawyer guy from the Simpsons.

melfie@lemmy.zip on 20 May 19:58 collapse

Sorry, typo. 😬

_lunar@lemmy.ml on 19 May 14:51 next collapse

archive.is has always been really problematic about having overly-aggressive google spyware captchas. half of the time i try to follow one of those links the captcha just outright rejects me because of “suspicious activity” before i can even start

very cool to see that it’s somehow gotten infinitely worse

FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works on 19 May 15:11 next collapse

Ugh, yeah. Cloudflare too. I hate it. It’s like 2/3 of sites I try,

Blah blah needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding.

Then it goes to an enedless reload loop. Or gets stuck.

I went to a site last week that belonged to a human rights organization. It’s a ranking of countries by different aspects like economic freedom or w/e, and some articles about their methodolgy. Couldn’t load it due to fucking Cloudflare. Cloudflare does not deem me worthy to read about human rights.

Why? Because I try to protect my right to privacy. The irony.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 19 May 15:18 collapse

chances are it was FOIA-confirmed slop anyways so cloudfare likely did you a favor. lol

texture@lemmy.world on 19 May 15:28 collapse

captchas hate vpns

jjlinux@lemmy.zip on 20 May 20:30 collapse

Fact!

brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 May 15:09 next collapse

What does the headphone and eye symbol do?

[deleted] on 19 May 16:34 collapse

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MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 19 May 15:31 next collapse

Someone wants to create an addon that hijacks recaptcha, for privacy? They only want a hash, no?

taiyang@lemmy.world on 19 May 16:33 next collapse

Ah yes, my very real human ability of scanning QR codes. Truly an inherent characteristic of humanity.

Sxan@piefed.zip on 19 May 21:45 collapse

Þe stated reason is a lie. Þis isn’t about verifying anyone is human.

But you knew þat.

kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 04:17 collapse

You know what else doesnt stop AI? Adding characters that even the most basic AI can easily filter out.

InFerNo@lemmy.ml on 20 May 05:49 next collapse

Just let people have their fun

kalpol@lemmy.ca on 20 May 15:40 collapse

Yeah honestly we should bring back more Old English characters.

Ash (æ) - between “a” and “e” like in cat Wynn (ƿ) - “w” sound, that will really throw them off Yogh (ȝ) - “y” or guttural “gh” sound

gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml on 20 May 22:06 collapse

Maybe they’re just a language nerd and wanna write their graphemes old school

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 19 May 16:45 next collapse

and what if i don’t have a mobile device?

underisk@lemmy.ml on 19 May 17:13 next collapse

Well, the bots do. Like 90% of viewbotting, click farming, follower buying etc is sold by people running phone farms.

ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 May 17:41 collapse

Just scan the qr code on your screen with your mobile device, we can get it sorted out.

into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml on 19 May 16:48 next collapse

looks optional, for now…

CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 May 18:28 next collapse

For those curious:

HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml on 19 May 20:36 collapse

TL;DR:

Supported Environments for reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification:

  • Android Devices:
    • Google Play Services version 25.41.30 or greater.
    • To verify Google Play Services version on an Android device, open Settings > Apps > All Apps > Google Play Services
  • iOS/iPadOS devices for QR Code Scan:
    • Version 15.0 or greater.
  • iOS/iPadOS devices for “Click to Verify” Button:
    • Version 16.4 or greater.
    • Version 15.0-16.4 with the reCAPTCHA app installed.

Fuck Google

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 19 May 19:03 next collapse

That’s what google’s been using to lockout non official Android forks like GrapheneOS. You can click on the eye icon at the bottom to get the regular captcha though… for now.

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 19 May 19:41 collapse

How does it stop those from scanning it?

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 19 May 20:08 next collapse

Oh you can scan it, but as I recall they then force you to put your phone number in to finish the process.

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 19 May 21:55 collapse

Ffs

LostCarcosan@lemmy.today on 19 May 21:06 collapse

Requires Google Play Services, from what I’ve heard, meaning it will only allow people who have phones pre approved by Google. I assume they also made some Apple service also acceptable. Can’t cut out their friends

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 19 May 20:17 next collapse

Prove I’m human? Sure… [closes tab]

rumba@lemmy.zip on 19 May 21:24 next collapse

better than me, they just blocked my IP outright.

pineapple@lemmy.ml on 19 May 22:21 next collapse

If you click the eye icon at the bottom you can go back the original captcha. For now at least.

Also I have no idea why archive.is uses reCAPTCHA from google! You’ve set up monaro as your only donation system so clearly you care about privacy but you haven’t implemented an open source captcha?

LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 May 00:07 collapse

Yeah, their privacy, not yours, evidently

comfy@lemmy.ml on 19 May 22:57 next collapse

Send an email to their webmaster if you haven’t already. The more of us, the better.

wooferTwo@thelemmy.club on 20 May 14:57 collapse

Really only way to fight back… There are alternatives to this shit

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 20 May 15:24 collapse

it feels like an updated version of “strongly worded letter”

leadore@lemmy.world on 20 May 00:00 next collapse

How does that even work?

recklessengagement@lemmy.world on 20 May 03:45 next collapse

Isn’t scanning random QR codes super risky? This is just begging to be abused…

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 20 May 14:18 next collapse

I never trusted it, I’ve never in my life scanned a QR code with my phone. But I never learned about it so whatever I just naturally do not trust anything computer.

kalpol@lemmy.ca on 20 May 15:36 collapse

Absolutely

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world on 20 May 11:49 next collapse

These are so useless. A barrier that is likely already broken by bots.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 20 May 11:50 next collapse

I don’t have a smartphone and I keep running into more and more of these QR codes. If I, as a citizen, am required to get a smartphone for these QR codes, to do citizen-like things, then it should be a utility and prices for hardware and services should come way down.

mik3dd0@lemmy.ml on 20 May 12:11 next collapse

That’s actually a really good point! 🤔

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 20 May 14:16 next collapse

You get by without a smartphone? I was really late to get one but you just can’t function in today’s society without one where I’m at. In the Heart of Darkness here.

kevinsky@feddit.nl on 20 May 14:25 collapse

You can function in today’s society just fine, it’s just less convenient.

But the problem here is not only that you need a smartphone to begin with, but also one specifically from either Google or Apple. Having something else (like a phone with Sailfish or GrapheneOS or any other custom rom) also doesn’t work.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 20 May 14:31 collapse

I am switching to graphene OS first chance I get, it should be this summer, damn the consequences.

I lived most of my life without any type of cell phone let alone a smart one. I’m going back to our roots, to reject this techno fascist bullshit it’s only downhill from here on their gear.

kevinsky@feddit.nl on 20 May 14:33 next collapse

Yes, please. The more users we have on Graphene the harder we are to ignore as a user base.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 20 May 14:43 collapse

The general crowd doesn’t seem to care about the trends that make graphene common sense and I suspect that Google would take measures if it ever did like they’re currently doing to fdroid.

kevinsky@feddit.nl on 20 May 14:50 next collapse

They are working on their “own” phone which should alleviate a fair number of concerns with what Google might be doing to sabotage them.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 20 May 15:40 next collapse

i’m glad to know this!!! do you have any more info?

klep@lemmy.ml on 20 May 16:48 collapse

They’re working with Motorola.

motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions…

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 20 May 17:07 collapse

oic, i was already aware of motorola’s partnership; i thought you meant that graphene was going to make their own phone.

thanks anyways, though; it’s nice when people respond in good faith.

farfalla@jlai.lu on 20 May 16:10 collapse

Yet, will they be able to develop their own OS when google stop sharing the code with them ? I do hope so…

jjlinux@lemmy.zip on 20 May 20:17 next collapse

I hope and think so. They’re already way better and faster than Google at patching bugs and vulnerabilities on Android.

kevinsky@feddit.nl on 23 May 10:43 collapse

They’d have to make Android propiatary for that and that also means that all the contributions made to it by everybody else will stop. Don’t see that happening.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 20 May 14:54 collapse

In at least some sectors, even this enshitified EU should be forced to stop Google from being anti-competitive towards graphene to some extent.

The US is fucked but I don’t know about the rest of the world necessarily, kind of a free-for-all right now.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 20 May 14:41 next collapse

Same here. I’m waiting for Motorola to join in.

FG_3479@lemmy.world on 20 May 20:21 next collapse

Switch to GrapheneOS anyway. If a website forces verification with a phone that passes strict Play Integrity with no other options, then don’t use it, or use a $30 Walmart phone if you must.

StopTech@lemmy.today on 21 May 17:44 collapse

Welcome to the resistance

AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml on 20 May 17:53 next collapse

Just like they did with automobiles!

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 20 May 18:47 next collapse

In china it’s the norm. And I was feeling the same way, until I realized china takes way better care of its citizens vs USA. Everything is convenient, healthcare, etc.

youtu.be/nRW_wh5mIek

This YouTuber goes into pretty good daily life of avg Chinese users.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 20:13 collapse

In rural areas, don’t many Chinese not have running water? That doesn’t sound like they are taken care of.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 20 May 20:35 next collapse

I don’t know the answer to that, I’ve only been to Beijing.

But overall, id argue with healthcare, public transit, building a new hospital when covid hit specifically for it, it seems like they’re doing better than nickel and diming them to death like USA. It costs money to breath here. Their EV setup is off the charts too. Even Ford CEO complimented it and drives a Chinese EV.

businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-jim-farley-xiaomi-te…

Chinese new chargers - youtube.com/shorts/KhoRJQUA6dA

youtu.be/TKMWZ5c1PMQ

Landless2029@lemmy.world on 20 May 21:43 next collapse

I know a few people that live in rural USA and tap the ground for free water. Waste water from shower goes on random land and brown water into septic and get emptied when full.

Super cheap compared to my city water.

On the flip side they have complete shit internet access while I got fiber.

They have to drive a ways (1 hr) for groceries and I got like 5 within 10in drive. Hell I could walk 20min to a convenience store or two.

gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml on 20 May 22:24 next collapse

Where I live (US) lots of people don’t have running water, not even wells. People live in their cars, in RVs, in tents. Having to bathe in gas station restrooms. US isn’t going to fix it either, it’s a feature of capitalism, the only way they keep us working such shit jobs is with the threat of homelessness. Home ownership in China is really high, like over 95%. Having that freedom would mean that I could do rainwater catch if I was in a rural area, lots of rural homes (esp eco homes) in the US catch rainwater and store it, like for an off-grid setup. I’d say making sure people own homes so they can be more self-sufficient is taking care of them in one of the most important ways. Letting them own a part of the wealth of their nation instead of squatting under overpasses because they can’t afford rent

SaneMartigan@lemmy.world on 21 May 13:00 collapse

The great Chinese achievement last century was lifting hundreds millions out of people poverty. That wont be everyone and some will still be living rough.

procapra@lemmy.ml on 21 May 07:35 next collapse

My entry level job requires that I use 3 separate apps. How do you get around that?

NannerBanner@literature.cafe on 21 May 13:37 collapse

Probably by not having an entry level job. The companies love to make money off people any way they can, but potentially losing a highly skilled, long term trained employee would be worse than losing the income from the apps’ data they can sell.

yermaw@sh.itjust.works on 21 May 07:57 collapse

Not even way down, actually provided. You dont pay for wheelchair accessibility or braille on the signs.

I mean we all pay for it with taxes and increased prices, but the wheelchair user isnt forking out personally.

mik3dd0@lemmy.ml on 20 May 12:11 next collapse

So it begins.

Abyssian@lemmy.world on 20 May 12:41 next collapse

I think I read on a lemmy post the other day that archive.is… kills babies? I don’t remember what it was, but that they’re bad and shouldn’t be used because of the badness.

CAVOK@lemmy.world on 20 May 13:59 next collapse

Apparenly DDOSing a blog iirc. You’re not allowed to use it over at the Europe community because of it.

triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml on 20 May 16:37 collapse

DDOSing a blog that was doing free work for Big Copyright and Big Paywall by trying to doxx the archive.is operator.

markz@suppo.fi on 21 May 12:56 collapse

They use your pc for a ddos attack every time you visit. Actual malware.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 20 May 18:24 next collapse

Yeah I’m not picking up my phone to use your website. Bye.

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 20 May 18:35 next collapse

Yes, I “like” the surprises scanning a unknown QR code. I hate this crap, same as this short URLs, it’s not different from clicking on shady ad banners. A trustworth website don’t need this shit, hiding its domain.

www.expandurl.net

The QR code point to recaptcha.net/qr/mMs9S9g8

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/b4e29455-791e-4e65-9a8d-8f309d996d34.png">

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 21 May 12:23 collapse

Your QR code scanner showns you the URL before you choose to open it, right? So I don’t really get the comparison to short URLs. As with any normal link, you get to see the link before you choose to “click” the QR code after you scan it.

NannerBanner@literature.cafe on 21 May 13:35 collapse

Ah, yes, dark patterns are okay because they can be worked around. Got it.

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 21 May 14:27 collapse

I don’t understand, why is a QR code a dark pattern?

Edit: I have now read the entire Wikipedia page on dark patterns, I didn’t find one that would match.

NannerBanner@literature.cafe on 22 May 02:06 collapse

Because a qr code is not a url. You might get one flashed, but it’s just like a 40 page eula: the amount of people who are going to pay attention is an order of several magnitudes smaller.

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 22 May 09:54 collapse

We start here: You see an URL -> if it’s a shortened URL, that’s problematic, if it’s a normal URL, it’s ok you can click it

Now we add a QR code to the equation: You scan a QR code -> You see an URL -> if it’s a shortened URL, that’s problematic, if it’s a normal URL, it’s ok you can click it

But you don’t agree.

Why is adding the “You scan a QR code” step making a difference? You compare looking at an URL to reading a 40 page EULA, I don’t think 1 line of text is comparable to 40 pages of text, but let’s go with it. Some people won’t read it, I definitely agree with that. If they click links without reading then, then they click links without reading them. Again, why is adding the step of scanning a QR code before the link shows up, making anything different? You can read and choose to click it or not all the same, whether the link appeared due to scanning a QR code, or whether it was on web page.

Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml on 20 May 22:40 next collapse

I won’t click on those Captcha pictures, so I’m sure as hell not scanning a QR code.

Hoodoir@lemmy.world on 21 May 00:28 next collapse

I just scanned it and now the entire nation of Bangladesh has my phone number

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world on 21 May 14:59 collapse

Congrats on your million dollars though!

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it on 21 May 08:25 collapse

It must be illegal