The cynic in me says there’s no way this passes and gets signed…right?
thefactremains@lemmy.world
on 21 May 02:24
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Well even law enforcement and politicians (corrupt or not) don’t want this.
irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone
on 21 May 03:49
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The cops maybe, but the agencies are in the pockets of the companies that sell it. And they control the message given to politicians who are also on the pockets of these companies. The companies have no qualms bribing all over the spectrum of politics and haven’t been stopped from doing it up to now. The systems are crap but super expensive for this very reason. The primary cost of the product is the bribes, not the technology. It’s how the industry of road cameras (plate tracking, red light, speed, etc.) has always been.
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works
on 21 May 15:12
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Agree with you about possible loopholes. My ideal would be to ammend the language of the bill to explicitly forbid USE of ALPR data. No matter even if the data came from a privately owned camera. In fact, we may be able to write to our reps to suggest that.
But assuming we don’t get that far in this particular bill, I still think it’s better than not passing it at all. First, a lot of communities will resepct the spirit of it. I think mine would do that. We’re already on the edge of banning them city wide. Lots of opposition to the cameras here in the electorate and we’re pressuring the city gov. With a national bill like this, I don’t believe my local gov would try to loophole it.
Of course, some others would. There would prob be court cases over it, yada yada. But nationwide, I believe this bill would make a dent. Even in its flawed form. It would also raise awareness of Flocks with Joe Sixpack. Most ppl don’t like the idea at all, once they learn of it. Just building momentum helps. Even if it’s not the end of the journey.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 May 16:05
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There is no way anything good is happening from now on. The rest of our lives are almost certainly fucked.
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The cynic in me says there’s no way this passes and gets signed…right?
Well even law enforcement and politicians (corrupt or not) don’t want this.
The cops maybe, but the agencies are in the pockets of the companies that sell it. And they control the message given to politicians who are also on the pockets of these companies. The companies have no qualms bribing all over the spectrum of politics and haven’t been stopped from doing it up to now. The systems are crap but super expensive for this very reason. The primary cost of the product is the bribes, not the technology. It’s how the industry of road cameras (plate tracking, red light, speed, etc.) has always been.
Tell your representatives that you want them to vote yes on this.
I’d rather they stop invading our privacy, than pay double to privatize invading our privacy.
Holy shit please
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Agree with you about possible loopholes. My ideal would be to ammend the language of the bill to explicitly forbid USE of ALPR data. No matter even if the data came from a privately owned camera. In fact, we may be able to write to our reps to suggest that.
But assuming we don’t get that far in this particular bill, I still think it’s better than not passing it at all. First, a lot of communities will resepct the spirit of it. I think mine would do that. We’re already on the edge of banning them city wide. Lots of opposition to the cameras here in the electorate and we’re pressuring the city gov. With a national bill like this, I don’t believe my local gov would try to loophole it.
Of course, some others would. There would prob be court cases over it, yada yada. But nationwide, I believe this bill would make a dent. Even in its flawed form. It would also raise awareness of Flocks with Joe Sixpack. Most ppl don’t like the idea at all, once they learn of it. Just building momentum helps. Even if it’s not the end of the journey.
There is no way anything good is happening from now on. The rest of our lives are almost certainly fucked.
Destroy flock cameras when you see them.
The word “acknowledged” seems to have been dropped from the title.
Sounds like cameras would still be allowed on private property and it doesn’t prohibit police from buying access to those databases.
Call your reps guys, tell them you want them to vote yes on this! Don’t wait for someone else to do it either, write it down or something!!!