Headsup! Chat control 1.0 is back once again! (fightchatcontrol.eu)
from kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com to privacy@lemmy.ml on 29 Jun 09:04
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/71411910

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A shocking backroom deal is underway to revive Chat Control 1.0 this Friday — and on Monday 29 June, the final trilogue for permanent mass scanning takes place. We face a double-attack on private communication. Take two minutes now: e-mail your MEPs and Permanent Representation to stop this!

#privacy

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MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 29 Jun 09:45 next collapse

Why are backroom deals even a thing? It’s decision-making of representatives, not a fucking company.

myrmidex@belgae.social on 29 Jun 12:17 next collapse

If it quacks like a duck…

EDIT to clarify: the EU was originally the union of Coal and Steel. Not too surprising it turned out this way.

themurphy@lemmy.ml on 29 Jun 20:09 collapse

Haha what you on about. The EU have declined this over and over.

The reason it keeps coming up is because the EU is a democracy, where every member state can propose things.

Your critisism is towards the few politicians proposing this. Not the EU, who, so far, has been on our side.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jun 02:12 collapse

Because companies are people too and are allowed speech.

I know this is Europe and not America but it doesn’t seem to matter where in the world its happening, that sentiment rings true.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 30 Jun 08:27 next collapse

Don’t see how this excuses secret talks.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jun 13:08 collapse

I’m not excusing anything. I’m starting the reason why its happening. Its a problem and should be dealt with.

thanksforreading@lemmy.ml on 30 Jun 17:45 collapse

Companies aren’t people though. I have never seen a company go to prison.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 13:14 collapse

Are you aware of citizens united?

thanksforreading@lemmy.ml on 01 Jul 19:40 collapse

Yes I am aware of that travesty. Ridiculous.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 02 Jul 00:12 collapse

So then legally companies are people. It is a travesty. It is insane. But it’s also reality.

thanksforreading@lemmy.ml on 02 Jul 21:39 collapse

Even legally it doesn’t add up. There are so many instances where law for individuals can’t be applied to companies that are just hand waved away so they can enjoy bribery. Sometimes living in this world feels like living in an insane asylum.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 02 Jul 22:28 collapse

Definitely can’t argue with that last point. Shits wild. Hopefully the Hawaii law sticks

tirateimas@lemmy.pt on 29 Jun 10:20 next collapse

These politicians need to be investigated, the shady way things are being conducted, the exclusion for themselves, the persistence on the subject after it being blocked by parliament multiple times and the way they twist and shape the narrative to make it more palatable is really suspicious.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jun 02:11 next collapse

Remove every politician who votes for this under the scummy backroom dealings.

CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 13:53 collapse

I’m so surprised the EU is pushing this considering how much effort they’ve put into pretending to care about digital privacy and passing all sorts of consumer protections, seems pretty obvious it was just a front and they want to spy on people just as much as the US, Russia or China does.

Tywele@piefed.social on 30 Jun 14:13 collapse

It’s just a few people who really want this. The rest absolutely doesn’t want this.

Hiro8811@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 20:42 collapse

I’m more than sure it’s Peter Thiel pushing this behind the curtains.