If all the good content is still there, people will stay there. Open and ethical platforms need to have content to become an alternative. I hope this content is hosted on PeerTube and other platforms as well.
MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 25 May 10:13
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Oh for sure. I hope he and others double post to better platforms so they can catch up as well.
They need to solve paying creators and also what happens when if they get big. How do they scale. Hate YouTube all you want it costs a lot of money to run it and I don’t see federated service replacing it. Also the fact everything us still up there I see that being hard in federation.
I don’t think it needs to be solved, the motivate people to support through other means and have a dedicated support button. Sponsorships are also a thing.
Regarding scaling, as the name implies, PeerTube makes use of Peer-to-Peer technology to reduce the load of platforms and it’s federated without an “official” instance, which allows content creators to spread across different instances, spreading the load it comes with.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip
on 25 May 09:50
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Step 2) Get a proper email where you aren’t the product.
atrielienz@lemmy.world
on 25 May 10:46
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Step 3: Stop using android unless it’s Graphene or something like it that’s de-googled. Because a lot of Google’s tracking is done through the play store.
I know this question pops up a thousand times but what email do you suggest? I’m trying proton right now.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip
on 25 May 12:35
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Tuta.con
If you like, get your very own domain as well, and make infinite aliases.
Switorik@sh.itjust.works
on 25 May 13:26
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I’ll give it a go.
Do you have any suggestions on a maps app that is compatible with android auto or is android auto another can of worms?
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip
on 25 May 14:44
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Never needed to mess around with that, so I don’t have any advice.
As far as maps in general are concerned, I’m currently experimenting with OSM based maps. If you’re on iOS, you can easily get away from google by using apple maps. Not gonna get away from big tech that way, but still…
I_Am_Jacks_____@sh.itjust.works
on 25 May 22:10
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You still can’t have an alias go to multiple mailboxes, though, right? Or even forward out of tuta?
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip
on 26 May 04:55
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The terminology is a bit confusing, so let’s clarify. What you really have is just one mailbox, not many. It acts as a catch-all mailbox for all mail sent to any addresses under your domain. You just need to set up folders and sorting rules to keep things tidy.
So let’s say you bought cool.tech and you made a single mailbox like inbox@cool.tech. Nobody sends mail there specifically, but that’s where it all goes because it’s a catch-all address. All the other addresses mail is sent to were never explicitly created, but they can receive anyway.
Instead, you get mail to addresses like ScammyAppName@cool.tech and iJustWantedToDownloadThisOneFile@cool.tech, etc. Anything sent to those addresses gets sorted into two separate folders within the only mailbox you’ll ever need. If you want the same email to appear in two folders, you would need to make a copy of it.
metalhead_@discuss.tchncs.de
on 25 May 15:39
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TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip
on 25 May 15:29
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Post it on peertube, and you’ll reach the viewers who don’t even use google adware. Post it on YT, and suddenly you’ll have an audience that realistically could implement the advice.
Peertube and others are not nearly anp viable option yet
Can you please clarify why not?
weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social
on 26 May 22:30
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There’s simply not even close to the amount of content amassed on YT, and on Peertube’s case (and perhaps on the Fediverse itself), having to navigate through instances makes onboarding not as seamless as the alternative. On the other hand, I think YT’s monetization scheme makes it a more attractive platform at the moment, which further contributes to the extent of its user base.
there is more content on PeerTube already that you can watch during your lifetime
monetization exists on PeerTube exists and is not based on advertising (which has terrible side effect on privacy)
So I think if one is looking for PeerTube to be a copy of YouTube in terms of both content and monetization they will be disappointed… but also maybe that’s the problem in itself. YouTube monetization is damaging (forcing to be a popularity contest) and bring poor content in. Sure some very few content creator are still on it but a lot already moved away. The assumption though is that there is a link between popularity and quality. It’s time to reconsider.
weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social
on 27 May 08:30
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Look, I’d love for Peertube to rival Youtube (and it’s a growing platform, who knows what will happen in the future), but like you said, there are very few content creators and mainstream personalities there. Try looking up a song, a clip from a popular TV show, a game walkthrough, a stand up from your favorite comedian, a silly meme, whatever, and if you find anything on Peertube, that’s impressive, but on Youtube you’ll have dozens upon dozens of examples. The difference in scale over popular content makes any usability comparison right now just wishful thinking. This has been by far YT’s (and maybe on a larger scale Google’s) strength: everything/everyone is already there, so why go anywhere else, where not nearly the amount of people will be watching and bringing in money based on those views.
Still, I’m hopeful people will accept alternative platforms more and more, with how shitty the YT experience has been on the official client and I enjoy discovering new channels I can follow on Peertube, but as of now, I don’t think most people could ditch one for the other, realistically.
lemonhead2@lemmy.world
on 25 May 11:28
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oh lol. stopped watching the video when he said to protect yourself when browsing sign out of chrome
how about using a non spyware browser instead? e. g. Firefox
Google can track you even if you don’t use any of it’s services or products. Beginning with half the websites in internet, most from the US, use googleanalytics, google-tagmanager and sending data to Alphabet, adding information from Cloudflare and also mobile data, among others.
Not so easy to avoid Google, less using YT, only possible to avoid the worst spying. One measure is to use EU apps and services insted of those from the US.
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Step 1) Don’t use YouTube('s own client)
Fair point.
Although it does have the biggest exposure to Google addicts.
I mean, this video is targeting people who are still entangled with Google. If you aren’t, there isn’t much point in watching it, right?
If all the good content is still there, people will stay there. Open and ethical platforms need to have content to become an alternative. I hope this content is hosted on PeerTube and other platforms as well.
Oh for sure. I hope he and others double post to better platforms so they can catch up as well.
They need to solve paying creators and also what happens when if they get big. How do they scale. Hate YouTube all you want it costs a lot of money to run it and I don’t see federated service replacing it. Also the fact everything us still up there I see that being hard in federation.
I don’t think it needs to be solved, the motivate people to support through other means and have a dedicated support button. Sponsorships are also a thing.
Regarding scaling, as the name implies, PeerTube makes use of Peer-to-Peer technology to reduce the load of platforms and it’s federated without an “official” instance, which allows content creators to spread across different instances, spreading the load it comes with.
Any alternative client recommandations?
My personal recommendation that has been working for me (although there are other options that for some people might be better)
NewPipe for videos
Metrolist for music and podcasts
Thanks, will give them a try!
I am so happy for you finding newpipe now! Awesome client.
Grayjay
Step 2) Get a proper email where you aren’t the product.
Step 3: Stop using android unless it’s Graphene or something like it that’s de-googled. Because a lot of Google’s tracking is done through the play store.
I know this question pops up a thousand times but what email do you suggest? I’m trying proton right now.
Tuta.con
If you like, get your very own domain as well, and make infinite aliases.
I’ll give it a go.
Do you have any suggestions on a maps app that is compatible with android auto or is android auto another can of worms?
Never needed to mess around with that, so I don’t have any advice.
As far as maps in general are concerned, I’m currently experimenting with OSM based maps. If you’re on iOS, you can easily get away from google by using apple maps. Not gonna get away from big tech that way, but still…
You still can’t have an alias go to multiple mailboxes, though, right? Or even forward out of tuta?
The terminology is a bit confusing, so let’s clarify. What you really have is just one mailbox, not many. It acts as a catch-all mailbox for all mail sent to any addresses under your domain. You just need to set up folders and sorting rules to keep things tidy.
So let’s say you bought cool.tech and you made a single mailbox like inbox@cool.tech. Nobody sends mail there specifically, but that’s where it all goes because it’s a catch-all address. All the other addresses mail is sent to were never explicitly created, but they can receive anyway.
Instead, you get mail to addresses like ScammyAppName@cool.tech and iJustWantedToDownloadThisOneFile@cool.tech, etc. Anything sent to those addresses gets sorted into two separate folders within the only mailbox you’ll ever need. If you want the same email to appear in two folders, you would need to make a copy of it.
posteo.de
german e-mail provider . 1€/month. Enviroment in mind. simple.
Clients i use for smartphone is FairMail and on pc Thunderbird.
Stick to Proton if you like it.
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Post it on peertube, and you’ll reach the viewers who don’t even use google adware. Post it on YT, and suddenly you’ll have an audience that realistically could implement the advice.
The only thing I use is yt from that list, but I don’t use their client
Wish we weren’t stuck with YT, but Peertube and others are not nearly anp viable option yet. Hurray for other clients, though.
Can you please clarify why not?
There’s simply not even close to the amount of content amassed on YT, and on Peertube’s case (and perhaps on the Fediverse itself), having to navigate through instances makes onboarding not as seamless as the alternative. On the other hand, I think YT’s monetization scheme makes it a more attractive platform at the moment, which further contributes to the extent of its user base.
So I think if one is looking for PeerTube to be a copy of YouTube in terms of both content and monetization they will be disappointed… but also maybe that’s the problem in itself. YouTube monetization is damaging (forcing to be a popularity contest) and bring poor content in. Sure some very few content creator are still on it but a lot already moved away. The assumption though is that there is a link between popularity and quality. It’s time to reconsider.
Look, I’d love for Peertube to rival Youtube (and it’s a growing platform, who knows what will happen in the future), but like you said, there are very few content creators and mainstream personalities there. Try looking up a song, a clip from a popular TV show, a game walkthrough, a stand up from your favorite comedian, a silly meme, whatever, and if you find anything on Peertube, that’s impressive, but on Youtube you’ll have dozens upon dozens of examples. The difference in scale over popular content makes any usability comparison right now just wishful thinking. This has been by far YT’s (and maybe on a larger scale Google’s) strength: everything/everyone is already there, so why go anywhere else, where not nearly the amount of people will be watching and bringing in money based on those views.
Still, I’m hopeful people will accept alternative platforms more and more, with how shitty the YT experience has been on the official client and I enjoy discovering new channels I can follow on Peertube, but as of now, I don’t think most people could ditch one for the other, realistically.
oh lol. stopped watching the video when he said to protect yourself when browsing sign out of chrome
how about using a non spyware browser instead? e. g. Firefox
Gasp…the audacity to even suggest something so obscene. Shame on you!
i would have thought, based on the title, that ‘step one’ would be ‘ditch chrome’
A digital panopticon.
Shoutout to yt-dlp.
Google can track you even if you don’t use any of it’s services or products. Beginning with half the websites in internet, most from the US, use googleanalytics, google-tagmanager and sending data to Alphabet, adding information from Cloudflare and also mobile data, among others. Not so easy to avoid Google, less using YT, only possible to avoid the worst spying. One measure is to use EU apps and services insted of those from the US.