Lemmy and VPN - no posting allowed
from patruelis@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 26 May 22:07
https://lemmy.world/post/47389681

Hi all,

I have VPN turned on on my phone all the time.

To be able to post anything, including to comment, I need to turn off the VPN. To be honest, I’m quite conflicted by this.

Any reason why this is or what to do about it besides turning off the VPN?

I’m using Voyager as a client.

Edit: it seems like the instance is the issue. Moving here from Reddit it’s not as simple as j would have thought. Also, VPNs are essential, no VPN is no go for me.

Case closed.

#privacy

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unitedwithme@lemmy.today on 26 May 22:12 next collapse

Same. Paid Proton and Voyager, and no bueno 😭

BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml on 26 May 22:13 next collapse

Huh, have you tried changing your exit?

Because I’m on a vpn now…

pmtriste@lemmy.world on 26 May 22:14 next collapse

I have had the same problem with some VPNs, but sometimes it works. Maybe your instance admin can identify if they allow any VPNs, or you could try to move to an instance that is more lenient?

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus on 26 May 22:15 next collapse

Probably your instance. For example, I’m on a VPN all day every day and I get to post and comment and use Lemmy like nothing happened.

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca on 27 May 04:12 collapse

So this is why all my posts never showed!

Just kidding, I just almost never post, but I do use a VPN almost all the time.

Dionysus@leminal.space on 26 May 22:17 next collapse

Either spam/troll/bot protection or a government honey pot.

Find a new instance.

[deleted] on 26 May 23:29 next collapse

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FoxyFerengi@startrek.website on 26 May 23:32 next collapse

They aren’t calling you a troll, they’re offering a reason that Lemmy.world doesn’t allow VPNs

patruelis@lemmy.world on 26 May 23:33 collapse

The only reason was “change your instance” the other comments were useful, not this one.

Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 May 23:39 collapse

They succinctly told you the reasons it could be happening and offered you a solution. What do you want them to do, tickle your balls and tell you you’re pretty? The fuck kind of response is that, go back to Reddit lol

hanrahan@slrpnk.net on 27 May 09:07 collapse

What do you want them to do, tickle your balls and tell you you’re pretty?

what instance is this available on, seems a great way to expand Lemmy use!

Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 May 23:37 collapse

They explained the four possible reasons it could be happening, and offered a solution.

What do you want them to do, tickle your balls?

lazylemons@lemmy.today on 26 May 22:24 next collapse

As others have said it is based on instance. I get why some have instances have the restriction though.

FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works on 27 May 00:43 collapse

I get why some have instances have the restriction though.

I get it too.

Which is why I so fucking hate ppl, companies, govs, w/e who abuse services. When it gets bad enough, it makes the service clamp down. And that means loss of privacy for everyone. Even the ppl not abusing it.

TBF I don’t know what will prevent the more open Lemmy instances from that fate. Today, Lemmy flies under the radar. Too small for anyone to notice or care. Too tiny to be target for mass disinfo campaigns. Or shitty influencers to infest and take it over. But if it gets big enuf… it’ll have the same probs. There are probs that aren’t do to the algorithms on reddit or w/e. Some come from sheer scale. Humans gotta ruin everything nice.

_haha_oh_wow_@piefed.social on 26 May 22:27 next collapse

I’m posting from a VPN, no issues. Try a different instance.

Substance_P@lemmy.world on 26 May 22:27 next collapse

It’s definitely your instance, most probably VPNs are not allowed on it. If you do want to use a VPN on Voyager, try changing the country/server, (or exit point as someone else suggested) you should manage to find one that works. - switch quickly then post, works for me.

Edit: yep had to do it to post this message.

patruelis@lemmy.world on 26 May 23:28 collapse

It seems like it. I’ll change the instance.

ilinamorato@lemmy.world on 26 May 23:05 next collapse

Could be where your VPN is hosted. If your traffic appears to be coming from (for instance) an AWS data center, it might appear to be coming from a known spam source (since there are some spammers which have used AWS). The instance you’re on might just be using an overzealous spam block IP list.

brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 May 23:08 next collapse

That’s not all of Lemmy, just your specific Lemmy instance with those restrictions (lemmy.world).

Talk to lemmy.world admins or sign up to a different Lemmy instance that allows VPN usage.

patruelis@lemmy.world on 26 May 23:27 collapse

Why is this? Why no VPN for Lemmy.world?

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 May 23:29 next collapse

Probably spam.

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 27 May 01:23 next collapse

Because it’s backed by CloudFlare. Why is it backed by CloudFlare? Because it has open registration and gets spammed a lot.

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 May 02:25 collapse

The two are unrelated.

Edit: I mean cloudflare and the vpn block.

quick_snail@feddit.nl on 27 May 16:02 collapse

A misconfigured cloudflare would definitely be related

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 May 16:49 collapse

This wouldn’t be a misconfiguration, you have to deliberately enable the VPN blocking feature. Unless someone went in there and started toggling things at random I suppose…

My point was that this is a deliberate choice made by World, and the choice wasn’t made because of Cloudflare being involved.

quick_snail@feddit.nl on 27 May 18:53 collapse

Yes. If they enable that, it’s a misconfiguration

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 27 May 02:07 next collapse

that’s another good question for the admins.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 May 14:29 collapse

CIA

commander@lemmy.world on 26 May 23:29 next collapse

I post from a vpn all the time. Sometimes it’ll complain and not let me because of VPN and then I just switch node and it lets me. It’s not even country based. Like I can be on a node in Mexico, get blocked, switch to another one in Mexico and be good

HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml on 27 May 00:14 next collapse

Lemmy.world, which you log into and is the one that receives your VPN connection, uses Cloudflare in front of their server. So it’s actually Cloudflare that receives your VPN connection. It’s probably giving you that captcha screen which your app can’t display (or being denied entirely). I’m on VPN too and when a link makes me open a .world post it gives me the Cloudflare captcha every time.

Not guaranteed to be this reason but my money’s on it. Try logging into lemmy.world from your browser on the VPN, will help you troubleshoot if it gives nonstandard pages when trying to post or especially when logging in.

Sarothazrom@lemmy.world on 27 May 00:38 next collapse

I’ve had this problem with proton, when it happens, i switch VPN exits and then retry posting and it almost always works.

9point6@lemmy.world on 27 May 01:05 next collapse

LW makes an effort to block posting from public VPNs because it also has open registration, and there’s not really much else that can be done to prevent a particularly belligerent spammer/troll from just repeatedly registering accounts. This was put in place after a particularly bad spate of it.

I’m not especially pleased about it, but I understand why it’s happened

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 27 May 01:13 next collapse

Yet another reason not to use lemmy.world

JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 May 02:47 next collapse

I had the same problem when I was on lemmy.world. now I’m on this other instance dbzero and it’s mostly smooth except for sometimes things glitch so I turn off my VPN to troubleshoot and then it works for a while, especially some thumbnail pictures won’t load in the post with my VPN on, but lately I’ve been too lazy to toggle my VPN off, I usually just give up on posts when the photo won’t load.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 May 11:28 collapse

I’ve had the same experience.

The problem is always with posts done on a specific instance, so it’s probably still instance related, maybe the pictures on posts in that instance not being passed around as pictures but rather as a link back to that instance and it’s the instance that is blocking some VPN exit points (which is why sometimes if you reconnect the VPN it fixes - reconnecting usually changes the exit point and only some exit points are blocked).

00xide@lemmy.ml on 27 May 04:30 next collapse

I assume some instances have coordinated-attack prevention software that disables traffic from past offender IPs, and VPNs are a common way to centralize and anonymize data. Whether malicious in intent or not, a strike against your VPN server might cause a blockage.

sudoer777@lemmy.ml on 27 May 04:41 next collapse

Solution: Move to a Lemmy instance that doesn’t suck

manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml on 27 May 04:52 next collapse

im posting from behind a vpn right now

DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml on 27 May 05:17 next collapse

.ml doesn’t block VPNs.

PerfectDark@lemmy.world on 27 May 05:53 next collapse

I just use a VPN server from my own country, which is annoying.

Then switch back to elsewhere when I’m not here.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 27 May 09:27 collapse

But what for? ISP tracking? If it’s because of a built-in adblocker, there are apps that do this locally via a local-only vpn.

eruchitanda@lemmy.world on 27 May 09:00 next collapse

lemmy.world blocks VPNs. If you have anti-censorship features you can use them to post.

Using VPN right now and posting.

Bloefz@lemmy.world on 27 May 09:08 collapse

What’s that anti-censorship feature? Is it like a flag you can get on your account or something?

moopet@sh.itjust.works on 27 May 09:49 next collapse

I’m on a vpn posting this comment.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 27 May 13:17 next collapse

I had this problem because the app does a sanity check between your phone clock and your “location”. I changed the clock to match my VPN locale and then worked backward from there.

If you can set the VPN to a place in the same time zone but far outside your actual locale that may work.

I don’t know for certain that this will help but it’s worth a shot.

vapor_body@lemmy.ml on 27 May 16:16 next collapse

Lemmy doesn’t use that primitive shit it uses Anubis like all the cool kids now

1984@lemmy.today on 27 May 17:52 collapse

Well Lemmy is federated so you can pick another instance. :)

Lemmy.today doesn’t block vpns, I use them sometimes.