After Years of Waiting Jellyfin Finally Lands on Samsung Tizen TVs
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from yodeljunkmanenvy@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 01 Feb 23:51
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from yodeljunkmanenvy@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 01 Feb 23:51
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Samsung Smart TV owners can now use Jellyfin natively, as the open-source media server is now available on the Tizen platform.
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Wow this is great news!
Literally just went through getting the app built /deployed for my parents and my partner’s parents using the old method a few weeks ago. I’m super glad the app is on the app store, but it’s just bad timing for me lol
Game changer
People into Jellyfin use smart TVs? I haven’t connected mine to the internet.
Not every Jellyfin user is also the server administrator. If someone sets up a server and shares that server with 5 people, most of those users aren’t concerned with the privacy implications of how they connect to the server; they just want to consume content as easily as they do with Netflix, Disney, etc.
That’s true but every Jellyfin host has to be.
Family connect to my server with tv. If tv is in the same house everything is blocked and select things are whitelisted.
It’s handy to share media with my family! The Roku app works OK
“works OK”
🤘 I’ll take it!
It has had trouble with some subtitles. That’s the biggest issue I’ve had
I do? I don’t love Android TV but I only have so much time to fight to the good fight with shit.
I would like a less smart tv but I don’t want to by a 7 year old Nvidia Shield and suffered paralysis by analysis trying to decide on on an Android TV box.
So here we are, I use jellyfin on a smart TV
And how much better would a TV box even be compared to a smart TV?
Not much if there isnt even much HDMI-CEC support.
It pisses me off that the reason most tech get filled with ads and shit is because people want to use it but are not bothered to learn anything about it. Like input selection, they need to press one button and everything has to be setting itself up without interaction or they will complain it’s too hard.
Then the ad company makes shit to make it seem easy but fills it up with spyware and ads. Lazy People adopt the easy way and endure the shit that comes with it while bending for more.
If “pressing one button” was all…That would be great.
Out of curiosity why are you reluctant to buy a Shield?
I was on the fence for a while but I’ve been extremely happy with it and have only run into minimal issues (and significantly less than with my smart tv before).
Having a smart tv doesn’t mean you must use internet to utilize it. Mine is blocked from internet connectivity but connects to my media server on the local network. If anything, I prefer this so I don’t need an extra computer sitting in the living room and can instead use the same single media server my phones and computers do.
This feels like some really niche gatekeeping.
We have both.
Kodi use Jellyfin for its media library and Kodi is excellent for a lot of the TV we watch. catch Up TV has replaced the decoder for watching terrestrial TV.
One thing that sucks in Kodi though is Arte (a franco-german channel that is a leans towards “intellectual”). For that, the LG WebOS app is much better than the Kodi add-on. Other than that 1 app, we could happily plug Kodi into digital signage panel if they weren’t stupidly expensive.
It’s relatively easy to restrict a smart tv to TLS/HTTPS traffic only using your router and a dns adblocker.
How does it help to let the smart tv talk via encrypted channels?
no it helps to block everything that isnt just netflix or whatever streaming service you use. you combine a DNS adblock along with blocking all the unused ports and it severely limits the communications. you could also add a vpn to add another layer of security. idk about jellyfin but most streaming services i know use https/443 to stream to your tv. so youre only allowing the specific service you want and only on a specific port. buncha great dns blocklists here github.com/hagezi/dns-blocklists, and a smart tv specific one for pihole here github.com/Perflyst/…/SmartTV.txt
Hardcoded IPS circumvent DNS blocks.
Restricting ports doesn’t do anything since the TV isn’t running a service, it is contacting one.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Not sure if you mean hardcoded DNS IPs or hardcoded “phone home” IPs. Hardcoded DNS addresses in devices are annoying, the only way i’ve found to get around that is using destination nat rules (DNAT) which requires more than a consumer router typically. hardcoded phone home IPs would get blocked by your firewall. you’re right that most firewalls are set up by default to implicitly allow outbound traffic. you set up a rule that explicitly denies all outbound traffic from the TV, then only allow port 443 (or whatever port your streaming service uses) on the specific IP/IPs that your service uses. Here’s Netflix’s published IP info for example.
edit also i’m fully aware it’s fucking ridiculous that we as consumers have to go through this much rigamarole. you shouldnt have to be a literal network engineer to do something as simple as have an internet-connected tv that doesnt spy on you.
Ah that makes sense! Thank you
Its even easier to never let it on the network.
just saying its possible
You have to do a lot of work. You would have to keep up on what domains it’s using (which were in the dozens four years ago for samsung), and make sure it doesn’t use some as kill switches if it finds something blocked.
We aren’t stopping just ads, we are stopping spying, data sharing, snooping, network mapping, etc.
Yeah. To be honest on the DNS side it would probably be far easier to just do a whitelist instead, block everything except your specific service. and yeah, its a stupid amount of work. i hate smart tvs but i’ll be damned if im gonna pay extra for a streaming box =|
pretty cheap relatively speaking, and usually a lot more flexible depending on what you use.
to get something as flexible as my android tv i’d need an nvidia shield and those are going on ten years old at this point. maybe if/when they do a hardware refresh, assuming sideloading isn’t completely impossible by then.
That’s awesome! I had to side load it and it was such a pain in the ass i just bought a Chromecast.
Yeah, I’ve had to help two friends connect to my server from Samsung TVs. It was annoying to say the least.
hell yeah
Ok, now fix the shitty client on appletv…
Fix the shitty server first though.
My server works fine with all other clients though, except the appletv one. In the appletv app I cannot change audio language or reliably change subs. Or, technically I can, it just doesn’t select the language I actually choose, it chooses some random one. This only happens on appletv app, it works as intended on all other devices, both android, iOS, browsers and MS/Linux clients.
Android TV also has similar issues
Infuse works great on Apple TV. It’s the best Jellfin experience. Although infuse is free to use it requires a subscription to play all media formats, in practice not free.
Yeah it doesn’t work with your own media server on the free tier, so they can go fuck themselves.
Mine’s working just fine. Why isn’t infuse free tier working for you?
When I try to point it at my server, I’m prompted with a page saying it’s only possible in the paid tier
Hmmmm. I wonder if you uninstall and reinstall the app, would the same page appear? I’m not near my appleTV so I can’t see if my sessions were a fluke. I’ve used it twice this last week.
So essentially the Plex experience we were/are trying to get away from.
Great.
I actually had that happen on the Android one a few years ago. I’m guessing the Apple one is years behind.
Apparently only for appletv, for iOS there are no issues.
yes, unpaid open source devs, do my bidding.
fix it yourself, ExcessShiv
Dude no one is forcing them to work on the project, they can just ditch it if they don’t want to do it anymore. Just because it’s free people are still allowed to voice opinions on the project, sure my comment is tongue in cheek, no one cares…welcome to the internet, is this your first day?
As my parents said:
The tone in your voice makes the music.
There is a significant difference between
and
…
is not an opinion, it’s just being a jerk
You thinking I’m a jerk doesn’t change the fact that the appletv app is a burning pile of dog crap. My opinion is that they should actively work on it, the lacking quality and functionality is just fact.
Just because Lemmy is free, people are allowed to voice opinions on your comment, and judge you by it. It’s my opinion that you’re an asshole, and your opinion is equally worthless.
I wish I could go to your parents and say something like, “OK, now fix the shitty attitude on @ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com.”, but you probably got it from them in the first place.
Are you this shitty to people who submit pull requests to your dog-shit bug-ridden open-source software repos? Do you even have anything that’s open-source that tries to solve a problem?
Of course, obviously I am the only infallible person in the universe…scrub
No, your attitude towards people who provide something for free while doing no work to maintain or work on that thing is the problem and makes you very “fallible”… asshole
As an opensource dev I don’t mind having people say this. It’s good to get feedback regardless of whether it’s a call to action or merely a suggestion. You can’t know what direction people want the project to go in otherwise.
That’s the beauty of open source! I’m sure they’d love another helping hand! github.com/jellyfin/swiftfin
That looks like a web view. I have that webview installed for years.
This is false news. Maybe, now it is in the store but the app is not new on tizenos.
Yes, it’s not available on the Store. Not many people are able to turn on developer mode and install the app through other means.
Just run a small linux pc and a wireless keyboard+mouse
I use libux btw
My gosh I just searched for libux, thinking maybe there was a great new Linux user experience out there for my media library. I even got confused for a split second when it autocorrected my search to Linux before realising the typo
I use libuv btw.
I use pibtv btw.
I’d rather use an Android TV box, so I can have Dolby Vision, etc.
Wait, I don’t have to update it through dev mode?
Kodi running on an (old) Nvidia Shield Pro, reading from a NAS via dlnr. This works nicely and I don’t get any quality degradation… Except for HDR+ which the shield doesn’t support and I was stupid and bought a Samsung TV, which is bad for numerous reasons, but also this one.
And of course, we are now closing in on the decade since it was released, and still no viable replacement.
Replacement for what? kodi? you’ll pry kodi out of my charred and flayed hands! (American)
EDIT nvm can’t be kodi. forgive me.
but yes i love kodi
edit edit,
any old Chromebook can run LibreELEC!
I tried Kodi years ago when I heard about some guy getting busted at a local flea market for selling Kodi rigged appliances. I didn’t download anything, but that UI was atrocious. After about 5 minutes of tinkering around, I just uninstalled it. Probably one of the worst UI’s I’ve encountered.
I’ve hacked mine together with a control4 system i pulled out of a dumpster, with a handheld remote it is quite navigable!
kore app/yatze on phone or direct selection of media from home assistant, you really don’t have to see the GUI that much at all if you’d prefer not to.
smart playlists, addons for other features.
i think it’s a swell front-end for a media server!
Um…. Okay?
i reckon ill unblock it from WAN long enough to get a new app
Omfg. I love you. 😭. I tried this very last week to make it work through their workaround and it never wanted to work out. Thank you so much bringing this up.
I had to practically hack my Samsung TV I order to get jellyfin on it. A little annoyed it took this long but at least its there now.
There’s a funny one-click tool here: github.com/…/Samsung-Jellyfin-Installer but I guess it’s not necessary anymore
Damn that looks like it would have saved me some time.
I thought newer Samsung tvs ditched tizen?
I only own one Samsung TV. Its a really smart TV. Its magnificent. It never switches input which is a good thing since I never need to. This is because it has no built in services of the so called 'smart tv’s"
I’m still not connecting NY TV to any network, local or otherwise.
Apparently they will try to connect to open networks and try to tunnel through to get internet, so I set bogus manual DNS, gateway, and ip info so it can’t connect to anything correctly.
If they’re going so far as scanning open networks & tunneling, why would they bother obeying dns gateways you specify?
🤷♂️ I figured it couldn’t hurt.Better than doing nothing 🤷♂️
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Great news, but still not available on mine. I have to wait. Also dev way didn’t work on mine.
I use it through tailscale. I can still use it locally (yay). Still would like to see tailscale on tizen