Self-hostable bookmark app Hoarder has been rebranded to Karakeep after a long trademark dispute (github.com)
from otters_raft@lemmy.ca to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 01:35
https://lemmy.ca/post/42159147

You can see their announcement here: reddit.com/…/hoarder_is_rebranding_to_karakeep/

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ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net on 12 Apr 09:46 next collapse

This looks really cool. Can anyone explain to me if a headless chrome browser is dangerous the way a regular chrome browser is? I’m only hesitant because I don’t know

486@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 14:39 collapse

Can anyone explain to me if a headless chrome browser is dangerous the way a regular chrome browser is?

Almost. You want to make sure to keep it as up-to-date as you would a regular Chrome browser. It does almost everything a regular Chrome does, including running arbitrary scripts on websites.

ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net on 12 Apr 19:37 collapse

Makes sense. The videos I saw about setting it up mentioned a headless chrome browser. But I’m new to self-hosting and didn’t know if it had to be chrome or if you could use a better option, since you can use an OLLAMA instead of chatgpt for example

Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it on 12 Apr 20:13 collapse

@ItJustDonn @486 Hang on, this runs chromium as root? That seems like a _really_ bad idea. And unnecessary, since there's a hoarder user installed later in the script...

https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep/blob/main/hoarder-linux.sh

Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 13:25 collapse

Of all the things you could do with your finite existence in this world, you choose to dispute the name of an open source selfhhostable bookmarking app

🤦‍♀️

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 15:03 next collapse

Legally required to. If you don’t protect your trademark, you lose it.

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Apr 16:45 next collapse

Is this even true or just a myth? From what I know, law doesn’t actually mandate people to be jerkasses. Also at least in sane countries, you can’t trademark words that are in the dictionary like “hoard” or “hoarder”, since by definition they have prior art.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 16:56 collapse

linkedin.com/…/can-you-lose-trademark-dont-protec…

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Apr 17:04 collapse

linkedin

Good try, but I don’t read MBA hallucinations or AI slop.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 18:01 collapse

Well, Google is free, you can find the information if you like.

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org on 13 Apr 23:02 collapse

Nah, I chose DDG and got a better result, but thanks!

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 12 Apr 20:37 collapse

Rebuttal, it’s called “hoarder”

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 23:45 collapse

And apple is called Apple.

I didn’t say the law is good.

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 00:27 collapse

The company trying to enforce the trademark is not called hoarder nor do they have any apps called hoarder.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 01:47 collapse

Oh good! Then they have no case and will lose.

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 02:40 collapse

They did not lose. The maintainer of Hoarder had to rebrand to KaraKeep, hence this post.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 14 Apr 03:21 next collapse

They didn’t son win either, the dispute is ongoing.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 11:11 collapse

Then they had a case

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 11:52 collapse

I thought you said they didn’t?

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 14:36 collapse

If they had no case they lost. If they have a case, they win.

It’s a truism.

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 15:26 collapse

The company enforcing their trademark has not trademarked the word “Hoarder” and evidently they won anyway. So I guess it isn’t really a truism, and “having a case” is more arbitrary than you seem to think.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 16:38 collapse

U think you’re just pointing out that trademark law doesn’t work the way a reasonable person would assume. I agree, it’s crazy. But if they won, then it was relevant to their trademark (somehow), and failure to bring relevant cases can lead to losing it.

So yes, it’s weird and sketchy and feels morally wrong. But also yes, it’s required and expected legally.

[deleted] on 12 Apr 20:27 collapse

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