Bitwarden's CEO has a Private Equity background, removed 'Inclusion' and 'Always Free' from their website -- because of course he did (www.fastcompany.com)
from german@pawb.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 15 May 19:05
https://pawb.social/post/44237085

In the latest episode of “they will always sell you out” - they sold you out! Who would’ve thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can’t exist without “leeching” off of Bitwarden.

#selfhosted

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evil_andy@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 19:25 next collapse

Well, poop.

otter@lemmy.ca on 15 May 19:45 next collapse

I think the original title was more helpful because it shows that this is a recent development. Maybe you can add “new CEO”?

Bitwarden scrubs ‘Always free’ and ‘Inclusion’ values from its website as longtime execs step down

In February, longtime CEO Michael Crandell moved to an advisory role, according to LinkedIn, with no announcement from the company. His replacement, Michael Sullivan, former CEO of both Acquia and Insightsoftware, touts his experience with “all facets of mergers and acquisitions” on his own LinkedIn page, including experience working with leading private equity firms.

CFO Stephen Morrison also left Bitwarden in April, replaced by former InVision CEO Michael Shenkman. Both Crandell and Morrison joined the company in 2019. Kyle Spearrin, who started Bitwarden as a fun hobby project in 2015, remains the company’s CTO.

Shortstack@reddthat.com on 15 May 19:45 next collapse

That’s troubling, I don’t like what this portends.

The new CEOs background especially suggests they’re spiffing up the company for a later sellout, why else would they pick a merger specialist for the role?

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 15 May 19:48 next collapse

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bitwarden.com/pricing/

I kind of find the headline a bit disingenuous. However, if they do move to a non-free model, I’d still pay for it. I mean $1.65/Month USD. Sure, I don’t even have to think about it.

Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca on 15 May 20:34 collapse

yeah fuck that… fuck subscriptions ALL OF THEM. fucn these companies, ALL OF THEM.

stop giving any of these pricks any slack. none of them deserve it, nor money.

today it’s 1.65… tomorrow it’s 4.99… next week it’s 12.99… stop being a mindless sheep giving them any sort of leeway. you’re enabling the scammers to literally scam you more, and more and more.

I’m relocating all my shit right now because we’ll… fuck em. I am loyal to NO COMPANY. none of them deserve anything but bankruptcy at a minimum.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:41 collapse

today it’s 1.65… tomorrow it’s 4.99… next week it’s 12.99… stop being a mindless sheep giving them any sort of leeway. you’re enabling the scammers to literally scam you more, and more and more.

‘Mindless sheep’. That’s hilarious. But I get it. Nobody likes to pay for shit.

skeezix@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:49 next collapse

Baaaaaaa.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:53 collapse

Man, I tell you, I wish I could live in a fantasy world where everything is free.

skeezix@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:55 collapse

Not sure about “everything”, but plenty of password managers are.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 15 May 21:02 collapse

There are a handful of things I do not self host.

  • arr stack
  • password managers
  • anything financial
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:55 collapse

I mean, when we see the same pattern of endless subscription creep and price hikes on virtually every service… saying “but it’s only [insert dollars here]” does sound pretty out of touch.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 15 May 21:01 collapse

It’s not ‘out of touch’. It’s paying for (if it comes to that) a service that houses all of my business accounts, investment accounts, personal accounts, etc, and all with a pretty damn good track record. As with any technology, you must constantly evaluate it to see if what you are spending is justified for the service you are receiving. If at such time I feel the service isn’t worth the price, then sure. As of now, it’s not really an issue to me.

circuitfarmer@lemmy.world on 15 May 21:06 collapse

Sure. I think a lot of people just see that constant evaluation as postponing the inevitable, though (again, because the same pattern is everywhere). It’s not acknowledging that part which seems out of touch.

Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:06 next collapse

Clue me in on why vaultwarden can’t exist without it?

baduhai@sopuli.xyz on 15 May 20:16 collapse

It can, but vaultwarden, as it currently is, is an implementation of the server only. So if bitwarden decides to go closed source all the way, they’d haver to start either creating their own clients or fork the current bitwarden clients.

RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:11 next collapse

Jesus, I’m tired of switching password managers.

tordenflesk@lemmy.world on 15 May 20:36 next collapse

Took me like 5 minutes to move back to KeepassXC.

slate@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 20:37 collapse

KeePass isn’t going anywhere. They’re also dragging their feet on passkey support, so you might go with KeepassXC.

zeitverschreib@freundica.de on 15 May 20:46 next collapse

@slate

Wasn't there some commotion a few weeks about KeepassXC and vibe coding?

@RonnyZittledong

Dumhuvud@programming.dev on 15 May 21:04 collapse

Yeah, there was. It was forked because of that, actually: codeberg.org/ChiPass.

eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca on 15 May 21:16 collapse

They also don’t effectively allow collaboration though, which is my cheif reason for using a cloud hosted password manager.

goatinspace@feddit.org on 15 May 20:48 next collapse

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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 May 20:57 next collapse

This is why corporate promises can never be trusted, because a new CEO can change those promises on a whim.

It’s part of why despite being interested in Beeper, I never signed up for it because I had questions about if those privacy promises they made would be kept if they sold to a bigger company… which they eventually did.

On the plus side they already made an official open source self-hosted version, which can be forked and/or return to the community developed Vaultwarden roots.

Meanwhile KeepassXC keeps on chugging along.

silentjohn@lemmy.ml on 15 May 20:58 next collapse

Every company is basically evil at this point.

iamthetot@piefed.ca on 15 May 21:26 collapse

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

TORFdot0@lemmy.world on 15 May 21:06 next collapse

Damn I guess I’m going back to keepass again since I am not really interested in hosting a vault

Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 21:23 collapse

Oh no, and I just setup Vaultwarden