SMTP provider
from callcc@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 14:48
https://lemmy.world/post/20209297

Who can suggest an ethical SMTP provider for low volume transactional mail? I’m willing to pay up to 2€/month for a few hundred mails per month.

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TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub on 26 Sep 15:04 next collapse

Check out MXRoute. (Specifically the lifetime promo, though I’ve seen it on sale for cheaper.)

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 15:46 collapse

Thanks but that’s not what I’m looking for. I need to send mails only.

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de on 26 Sep 15:08 next collapse

You could use some containerized mail server like Mailcow. They're pretty alright to set up and should work fine for low volume. At least in my experience. Unless you don't want to deal with mail yourself, then you should maybe consider a paid service. But I don't have any experience with those.

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 15:48 collapse

I specifically want to not deal with deliverability beyond the content and volume of my mails.

umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml on 26 Sep 15:08 next collapse

What’s “ethical”?

jewbacca117@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 15:20 next collapse

I bet op is one of those hippies that doesn’t like their SMTP tested on animals

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 15:48 next collapse

Yeah, sorry it’s not a precise term. I mean a non asshole company.

ITGuyLevi@programming.dev on 14 Oct 14:51 collapse

Thank you good sir, now I have coffee on my robe!

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 15:43 collapse

Mostly that they respect the privacy of my users and that they don’t have shady business practices that want to push you towards an over-expensive paid tier.

umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml on 26 Sep 15:59 collapse

I’m using Postmark for my Vaultwarden. Nothing major I know of.

FlightyPenguin@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 15:32 next collapse

I don’t know what you mean by “ethical”, but I use Sendgrid. They have a free tier that can send up to 100 emails a day.

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com on 26 Sep 15:32 next collapse

i suspect this falls under the golden rule of 3... price,quality,[ethics].

you get to pick 2

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Sep 20:48 collapse

Agreed, and well-articulated. I think you (OP) need to ask yourself whether you’re willing to pay the appropriate market rate for the service or not. I don’t know what that is, but I expect it’s higher than you’ve expressed.

callcc@lemmy.world on 27 Sep 12:35 collapse

Have a look at purelymail mentioned by others. It’s almost exactly what I’m looking for.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 27 Sep 17:41 collapse

Also, we’re in beta

That means there might be a few hiccups along the way. If you run across any problems you can always let us know, and we’ll do our best to fix them.

I would have thought this is a disqualifier in terms of quality of the service, but if that’s acceptable to you then I’m glad you got something that works.

JupiterThirdMoon@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 16:14 next collapse

I use purelymail, you can register unlimited number of domains and get SMTP + IMAP in return (+ Roundcube webmail). Perfect for my usage with few automated services

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 20:40 collapse

Amazing! Now this is something I haven’t heard of. I think we might have a winner here! Best thing, I could use it for transactional mail on all my websites for 10€/yr. Including as many inboxes as needed. Nice!

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 17:30 next collapse

“Low volume” vs. “A few hundred mails per month”

OK, what of the above?

kevincox@lemmy.ml on 26 Sep 18:47 next collapse

A few hundred a month is just a few per day. That is pretty low volume by most standards.

I would say in general if the SMTP server could be replaced by a single human writing and mailing snail-mail letters by hand it qualifies as low volume.

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 20:00 collapse

This is something you used to be able to do for free, no problem. It’s only a few of the big mail accepting companies being extra shitty about accepting mail making this tough. Looking at you Microsoft. So a few hundred mails per month is ridiculous both on storage, bandwidth and CPU consumption.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 21:45 collapse

I know. I was there, before Sanford Wallace invented the email spam and forced any sane SMTP server into password protections and whitelists.

meldrik@lemmy.wtf on 26 Sep 18:48 next collapse

SMTP2GO - 1000 free emails a month, 200 emails a per day.

bmcgonag@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 20:14 next collapse

Been using Purelymail, full email, but SMTP as well, and love the service thus far.

wraith@lemm.ee on 26 Sep 23:32 next collapse

I’ll second PurelyMail. Easy to set up and they have explainers for all the various settings. I pay $10 a year for “unlimited” domains and mailboxes (some caveats but for minimal mail we won’t hit any limits).

callcc@lemmy.world on 27 Sep 12:34 collapse

Exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks a lot!

tofubl@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Sep 22:19 next collapse

I’ve read good things about migadu. Haven’t used it myself.

callcc@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 22:27 collapse

Pretty nice but way more expensive then simplymail

tofubl@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Sep 23:15 collapse

EU servers might be worth something to some people, depending on where they are in the world. And while 190% is indeed “way more expensive”, relatively speaking, it’s still “well under” your goal of EUR 2 per month.

callcc@lemmy.world on 27 Sep 12:36 collapse

That’s actually a good point. Will need to think about server location and GDPR compliance.

vengefulpunk@supernova.place on 27 Sep 02:59 collapse

I use Brevo and have not had any issues. Your usage qualifies for their free plan.

gramie@lemmy.ca on 27 Sep 20:09 collapse

I use Brevo as well. Free tier: 300 emails per day.

Very happy with them.