What should I do with 2 old machines (Mac Mini and HP Pavilion g7)?
from rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 04:45
https://lemmy.world/post/40806012

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/40805695

I have two machines:

  • 2014 Mac Mini
  • HP Pavilion g7

Mac Mini 2014:

Very slow, probably can no longer be updated, nor can it run worthwhile programs.

HP Pavilion g7

Extremely bulky, chunky, and doesn’t even turn on unless it’s plugged in. It’s basically a desktop since the battery doesn’t hold a charge.

I put Linux on it (Mint I think) a few months ago as a weekend experiment.

Question:

What should I do with them? Are they worth salvaging? Should I simply donate or recycle them?

I was thinking I could use at least one of them as a home media server or something so that I can disconnect my Smart TV from the internet, but I’m not sure if they will hold or how I would even control them from my phone (Android) if I’m sitting on the couch.

Open to all ideas. I’m somewhat technical (perhaps far less than the Lemmy community), but I don’t know much about Linux or the command line unless I’m given step by step instructions on how to do something.

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BCsven@lemmy.ca on 28 Dec 04:51 next collapse

Openmediavault on Mac mini youtu.be/t_mdBjwV2uws

Xanthobilly@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 04:59 next collapse

I installed Proxmox on an old MacMini. It works great for spinning up virtual machines for things like a pinhole, qBittorrent, or a Minecraft server.

*piehole

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 05:05 next collapse

The only bummer is the requirement of wired Ethernet

lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 05:13 next collapse

I got wireless working in Debian on a 2012 Mac Mini, maybe there’s still hope?

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 05:23 next collapse

With proxmox?

[deleted] on 28 Dec 05:43 next collapse

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lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 23:55 collapse

Nah, this was for the Mac Mini running debian itself. I haven’t had any experience running proxmox, but was just idly wondering that maybe there’s a path to get it working in there given the there was a (PITA) path for getting it working in debian.

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 16:12 collapse

If it has wired Ethernet, proxmox is like, a small miracle of convenience. You can slice and dice multiple machines from one. It’s litterally one for the best pieces of diy infra support I’ve ever experienced…

But you gotta be hardwired.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 19:21 collapse

Your name gave me a chuckle. At first I thought it said ‘lemmy_clear_my_throat’ However, if you do somehow manage to deploy Proxmox with Wi-Fi capabilities, I’ve got a project, so do please share any findings.

lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 23:52 collapse

Didn’t mean to give false hope, just meant that after a bunch of tinkering I eventually got WiFi working on the Mac Mini running debian itself, so maybe there’s hope for wireless in proxmox, but unfortunately I have no experience with that.

nublug@piefed.blahaj.zone on 28 Dec 08:07 collapse

any other linux distro can do vms and containers, too. arguably it’s easier to do that than with proxmox.

but yeah, i wanted to check it out so threw it on the drive i pulled from my old broken laptop to check it out and discovered the wifi omission. i even tried to install base debian and ensure wifi was set up first then convert to a proxmox install. sadly, proxmox’s network stack is in conflict with any other linux network libs and actively uninstalled whichever one i had set up during the proxmox conversion.

i get their reasoning for not supporting wifi after looking it up but imho completely removing it as a possibility is a bit not cool, bro. i wasn’t trying to do any high availability or multiple nodes or anything like that so it wouldn’t have been an issue for my use case anyway.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 15:31 collapse

discovered the wifi omission.

TIL I didn’t realize that Proxmox doesn’t support Wi-Fi. Well, now I can scratch one project off the list.

rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 09:09 collapse

No idea what Proxmox is but will research!

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Dec 05:11 next collapse

The Mac Mini should still be perfectly usable if you put Linux on it and upgrade it to an SSD.

rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 09:11 collapse

Any recommendations on SSD and which Linux distro?

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Dec 10:05 collapse

You can get an adapter board that will make it work with an M.2 SSD. I believe it’s only PCIe 2.0, so there’s no point putting a high end SSD in it unless you need a high write endurance. Any SSD will be a huge improvement over a hard drive.

Most Linux distros will run on it since it’s using a 64 bit Intel CPU. If you have the version with 4GB of RAM, you will need something very lightweight though. I would run Debian if I was going to use it as a server or Mint if I was going to use it as a desktop.

lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Dec 06:35 next collapse

My NAS is a 2014 Mac Mini running OMV. It works great, very capable little Linux machine. Don’t bother with Mac OS.

rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 09:07 collapse

Which Linux distro do you have running on your Mac mini?

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe on 28 Dec 15:50 next collapse
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Dec 19:39 collapse

OpenMediaVault is based on Debian. I think it’s currently OMV 7, but I’m not at home at the moment so I can’t check. Very solid system though.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 15:15 next collapse

Are they worth salvaging?

I think they are worth salvaging, if but for a little while until at such time you wish to upgrade to something else.

but I don’t know much about Linux

Here’s a good opportunity to buff up your skill set. With two units, you can get into simple networking one device to another. Things like that. I see Proxmox has been mentioned and that might be an avenue to explore. Generally, I don’t toss a piece of equipment unless it has zero possibilities for use. I can always find something to do with old equipment even if it’s just testing out something new I’ve learned recently, without screwing up my main stack.

phanto@lemmy.ca on 29 Dec 02:09 next collapse

I have an old as eff laptop hiding behind my TV, and I use Unified Remote to make my phone act like a wireless mouse and keyboard for it.

Also, Proxmox is basically the answer to “I hate big tech and have a lot of time to kill. How do I deal?” Make one computer into 30 mini servers.

rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world on 31 Dec 06:19 collapse

Interesting. Will look into unified remote. The proposition to proxmox sounds good but only in the first half. I do not have a lot of time, much less to kill. I’m intrigued though!

fccview@lemmy.world on 01 Jan 19:23 collapse

Run batocera on your old mac mini and make a small arcade machine for yourself, you deserve it! batocera.org/download