FUTOs VM setup alternative for newbies
from IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 17:56
https://piefed.social/c/selfhosted/p/1469235/futos-vm-setup-for-newbies

I’m up to this point in the guide, going over setting up VMs and the configuration to the network to accommodate them, and am wondering if anyone would recommend going a different route? Like was said in the beginning, this is just their workflow, that they’ve had for a while. Are there better ways to explore now?

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cecilkorik@lemmy.ca on 12 Nov 18:43 next collapse

It is a perfectly valid approach, and there are also many other perfectly valid approaches. “Better” requires a definition of what you want to be better. If there’s something that’s making you uncomfortable about the process, let us know what concern or issue you’re seeing with it and maybe we can guide you to a better way for you. But there’s nothing wrong with the way they’re doing it. Others may have different preferences (including you, YOU might have different preferences!) but they’re just preferences. It’s not right or wrong, even if some people argue that it is, they’re always going to have some preferences embedded in that judgement. There’s always more than one way to do it. That’s the joy of it, really, and sometimes you’ll have to experiment yourself to find out what ways YOU like the best, that make sense to you, that are comfortable for you, or that do things the way you want to do them.

It’s your own self-hosting setup, you get to make the choices. Sometimes the number of choices can be intimidating and lead to analysis paralysis but the only way out of that is to realize that there really is no way of finding the “best” until you’ve tried many different ways and figured out the “best” yourself. That’s why the only real advice I can give you is to just go through the tutorial you’ve found and do it the way they do it for now. You can change later, as you learn more, when not if you decide you want to do something differently. Because you will. We all do. It’s part of the process.

Novocirab@feddit.org on 12 Nov 18:49 collapse

Not to forget: FUTO is evil.

victorz@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 20:33 next collapse

Man, we really can’t have nice things in the 2020s, can we.

Novocirab@feddit.org on 12 Nov 20:47 next collapse

Keep organizing and slowly things will get better

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Nov 12:38 collapse

Nope.
And you’ll be happy.^(Not like you have any choice)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

TomAwezome@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 22:56 collapse

Does anyone have a TLDR of Drew’s article here? I’ve seen enough of his keyboard-warrior frothing opinions and vitriolic rhetoric from his blog to avoid trusting it without some third party sources to back up his claims about things.

kerobaros@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 04:22 next collapse

tl;dr: FUTO has given Curtis Yarvin a platform to speak publicly on multiple occasions.

TomAwezome@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 05:44 collapse

Oh, thanks, this is the first I’ve ever heard of Curtis Yarvin. Did he say anything bad during those opportunities to speak? I’m not sure it’s “evil” to interview someone.

tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden on 13 Nov 07:03 collapse

Excerpt from the Wikipedia introduction:

Yarvin has been described as a “neo-reactionary”, “neo-monarchist” and “neo-feudalist” who “sees liberalism as creating a Matrix-like totalitarian system, and who wants to replace American democracy with a sort of techno-monarchy”.[14][15][16][17] He has defended the institution of slavery, and has suggested that certain races may be more naturally inclined toward servitude than others.[3][18] He has argued that whites have inherently higher IQs than black people,[18] and opposes U.S. civil rights programs.[19]

TomAwezome@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 08:03 collapse

Wow, he does sound pretty nasty, that’s messed up. I don’t see though how FUTO interviewing a bad person makes the organization evil though.

kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Nov 19:05 collapse

There’s a difference between interviewing someone and helping thrm share their message

TomAwezome@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 19:54 collapse

Is that what they were doing? I haven’t seen videos of them ‘platforming’ Curtis so I don’t know whether they were helping him proliferate any specific message

rearview@lemmy.zip on 13 Nov 13:04 collapse

The blog also stated that FUTO repeatedly gave money to other FOSS projects without following proper process for institutional sponsors, and stick their names onto their front page.

Aside from that, their own projects are source-available at best.

TomAwezome@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 14:58 collapse

Based on FUTO’s own response, they don’t put logos on the front page to “simplify things”. I think that’s a little weird. Is source-available distinct from open source? Still not sure how that makes them “evil” though, starting to think user Novi Sad might have been making a joke by calling them evil, perhaps being playful.

kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Nov 19:03 collapse

Yes, source available is distinct from open source. Source available just means you can see the code. Open source allows you to modify and redistribute the code.

bordam@feddit.it on 14 Nov 10:20 collapse

No, that’s the difference between Open Source Software and Free Software

kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 11:59 collapse

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/open-source

bordam@feddit.it on 14 Nov 12:33 collapse

You’re right, I should have done more research