How to prepare for future home server upgrade?
from jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 01 Sep 19:36
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I’ve been self-hosting Home Assistant for over a year, and I want to take the dive into more self-hosting. I want to start by converting an old laptop into a home server. Assuming that goes well, I’ll probably want to upgrade to a more modern, purpose built server and NAS fairly soon. How can I make sure that what I set up on the laptop can be easily moved to my upgraded hardware later?

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Thanks in advance for the advice! :)

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tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden on 01 Sep 20:06 next collapse

With Proxmox it’s quite easy, you can copy the VM/LXC Backups to the new host (via SCP, NFS or whatever) and restore there. Recently did exactly that.

frongt@lemmy.zip on 01 Sep 20:09 next collapse

You could even just create a cluster and do a migration. I don’t think you need zfs for that, you only need zfs for replication.

tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden on 01 Sep 20:18 collapse

Should work indeed, but they’d need replicated space. I’m not sure how well that works if the cluster is only designed to be temporary, since removing a productive node from a cluster is a bit risky?

frongt@lemmy.zip on 01 Sep 20:35 next collapse

I edited, since it was ambiguous. I think you only need zfs if you want replication, cold migrations should be fine without it.

Removing nodes from clusters is fine. It’s not really encouraged, but if a node fails you have to be able to remove it, so it’s possible.

jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip on 01 Sep 21:01 collapse

I’m not sure how well that works if the cluster is only designed to be temporary, since removing a productive node from a cluster is a bit risky

Good callout. Just did some reading on the concept of maintaining a quorum, which I didn’t know about. Definitely need to be careful if I go with that approach, but it does sound interesting! I’m not entirely opposed to leaving the old laptop as a node and then using it for experimental stuff or maybe running just one specific standalone service on it after moving the critical stuff to the new server.

frongt@lemmy.zip on 01 Sep 22:20 collapse

You don’t need multiple devices and quorum unless you’re using HA. I have two nodes just so I can migrate back and forth when doing updates instead of shutting all the VMs down. No quorum, no HA.

jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip on 02 Sep 03:00 collapse

Oh, nice! Thanks for explaining that. I didn’t realize there was a way to run a cluster without HA.

jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip on 01 Sep 20:58 collapse

Sounds pretty straightforward. Thanks for the info!

salacious_coaster@infosec.pub on 01 Sep 20:39 next collapse

If you can, I’d skip the laptop and go for a used workstation SFF now. $250 or so would buy you plenty of server.

jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip on 01 Sep 20:58 collapse

That’s a fair point, but I kind of want to tinker around on the laptop without worrying too much about breaking things and figure out what all I actually want to self-host. That will help me figure out what sort of hardware I need.

pHr34kY@lemmy.world on 01 Sep 22:39 next collapse

When you upgrade your desktop PC, plan for it to be the home server after that.

I got a rackmount case to transplant my old desktop montherboard into every 5 years. I also got a 4-port NIC so it can also be a router. My server is a 4th gen Core i5 and it’s still plenty of power for a home server.

If you’re a laptop guy, I’m not sure what you’d do. Maybe ask friends for their old desktops. The Win10 discontinuation next month would be a great opportunity to snap up some business PCs destined for landfill.

For Home Assistant, I think you either need Docker or a dedicated box. I kinda hate how there isn’t a .deb package for it like literally every other service on my server.

Zikeji@programming.dev on 02 Sep 00:16 next collapse

All my backups are tested, so upgrades (or recovering from a failure) are usually straightforward. The only thing I don’t back up is my collection of Linux ISOs, but that I can easily reacquire.

Infinite@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Sep 00:27 collapse

In Home Assistant, navigate to Settings > System > Backups. Configure the backup settings and create a manual backup.

On your new Proxmox server, you can download the qcow2 file from Home Assistant’s website and run it as a virtual machine.

On first boot, you can import your previous configuration from a backup.