Hetzner announces price hike for cloud servers and bandwidth cut of up to 95% (gigazine.net)
from sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 03:28
https://sh.itjust.works/post/33282776

Apparently US bandwidth was reduced to 1TB for their base plan, though they have 20TB for the same plan in Europe. I don’t use much bandwidth right now, but I could need more in the future depending on how I do backups and whatnot.

So I’m shopping around in case I need to make a switch. Here’s what I use it for:

Hard requirements:

Nice to have:

Not needed:

I’ll probably stick with Hetzner for now because:

Anyway, thoughts? The bandwidth change pisses me off, so let me know if there’s a better alternative.

#selfhosted

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solrize@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 04:03 next collapse

That article is almost 4 months old and yeah, the internet in EU is better than in the US. But you can get US plans with plenty of bandwidth. I’ve been happy with buyvm.net and there are many others. Hang out on lowendspirit.com for a while to get a sense of things.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 23 Feb 04:16 next collapse

Yeah, it’s old, but it took effect this month for existing customers, hence why I noticed.

Thanks for the suggestion. Any issues with the transfer speeds?

solrize@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 09:02 collapse

I’m satisfied. Virmach has had ups and downs but their network is fast too.

If you want something Hetzner-like in North America, you might look at OVH. They have a data center in Beauharnois (BHS), Canada, which is near Quebec. It’s not too different from using a server in the Northeast US.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 23 Feb 09:24 collapse

Cheap, thanks :)

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HelloRoot@lemy.lol on 23 Feb 12:16 collapse

Thats expensive

With a very nieche benefit. I doubt that one core can chug enough to make any significant bandwith

iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com on 23 Feb 15:04 collapse

$1 $2 per month is expensive? 🤣

[edit: I can’t do simple math]

Zeoic@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 15:18 next collapse

Well the cheapest there is $2/month, but yeah for a single core I dont think I would be worth the effort to setup, let alone also pay for

HelloRoot@lemy.lol on 23 Feb 17:20 collapse

You can get 4 cores, 6gb ram, 200gb ssd for 6$ per month from contabo.

Lets normalize the price for comparison.

6/3 = 2

So for the same normalized price you get:

  • 4/3 = 1.333 cores
  • 6/3 = 2GB RAM
  • 200/3 = 66GB SSD storage

Thats a bit more CPU, four times the RAM and six times the storage!!!

I highly doubt that the “near bare metal” performance of that one core is better than just having 30% more virtualized cores.

And the math gets even worse if you compare the other tiers.

The only good tradeoff for this offer is the unlimited traffic IF and only if you actually would hit the comtabo limits (32TB outbound + unlimited incoming) and there is probably some math where you can calculate when it starts to be worth the money vs. getting a second contabo vps.

t3rr0rz0n3@info.prou.be on 23 Feb 21:00 collapse

Contabo uses recycled hardware for many of its products, which contributes to its competitive pricing. However, this practice might raise concerns about reliability for critical projects.

schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business on 23 Feb 04:28 next collapse

For bandwidth intensive stuff I like wholesale internet’s stuff.

The hardware is very uh, old, but the network quality is great since they run an ix. And it’s unmetered too so it’s probably sufficient.

nesc@lemmy.cafe on 23 Feb 08:44 next collapse

ovh has everything (i think) mentioned, they also have inexpensive baremetal servers. They also have shitty ui. 😄

JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 12:31 collapse

And terrible, archaic, chaotic practices such as activating your 2FA without permission and then locking you out of your account for weeks pending multiple signed paper letters. Oh, and sometimes their datacenters burn down and take your server with them. I’m sad to have to throw them under the bus like this. I want OVH to succeed but personally my patience with them definitively ran out.

nesc@lemmy.cafe on 23 Feb 12:36 collapse

Well it not like they burn constantly they only burned once twice! As for the 2fa problem, I’ve missed it because it was activated already. They are mostly okay now, I think my company lost a few millions when they burned (all our infrastructure was there).

JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 13:29 collapse

Well that puts the loss of my little VPS into perspective.

refreeze@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 13:06 next collapse

Check out Lunanode. Cheapest option is 3.50 a month and bonus points for being Canadian. I just recently set my VPS up there and am really pleased with them. Afaik they support your needs including custom ISO.

johntash@eviltoast.org on 23 Feb 19:49 next collapse

I like racknerd for cheap vps. Check their black Friday deals (they’re up all the time).

Also check lowendtalk, sometimes you’ll find good deals.

ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world on 25 Feb 02:08 collapse

Racknerd is almost always the right answer. Just find one of their various specials for yearly servers amd get one.love those guys

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 19:57 next collapse

Company: Yes we’re charging you more… but on the other hand we’re giving you less, so it all evens out. Besides, changing hosts is a pain.

Customers: Changing hosts is such a pain.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 23 Feb 20:32 collapse

Yeah, I really don’t understand why transfer is so expensive here in the US. The same base tier service provides 1TB transfer in the US and 20TB in the EU. I don’t need 20TB, but it would be nice to have 3-5TB in case I need to restore a backup or something.

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Feb 20:12 next collapse

how do they compare with infomaniak? i was looking to move from aws to an eu solution.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 23 Feb 20:27 collapse

infomaniak

It looks like they don’t go very low end, so if you’re wanting that, Hetzner is probably a better pick.

3dmvr@lemm.ee on 25 Feb 02:31 next collapse

Hetzners still the cheapest pay by the hour option in the US? Long term id use racknerd or littlecreekhosting, but for quick deployments that are paid by the hour on the 3rd of the month, Hetzner is great. Don’t have to whip out the credit card, it’s instant.

3dmvr@lemm.ee on 25 Feb 02:31 next collapse

When I was testing panels I started up a bunch and deleted them the next day, saved me time reinstalling on a single one.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 25 Feb 02:40 collapse

Yeah, or they’re at least competitive across the board. I’m mainly annoyed at the dramatic change to transfer quotas, which is a lot more generous in the EU and less generous than it used to be.

For now I’m sticking with them, at least until I exhaust the transfer quota.

geography082@lemm.ee on 25 Feb 17:21 collapse

I hope is to improve their bandwidth, it really sucks (even from inside Europe )