I mean, I kinda do- for public services on my website. but I don’t why I would do a dedicated one- when almost all need services authentication.

but I do use homarr for as an internal “homepage”/dashboard. Great idea though. <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.organic-server.org/pictrs/image/59adc345-9d25-46ff-b964-4330f63e8bc1.png">

I spent an entire weekend doing this and then just sat there staring at it like the Wolverine looking at a picture meme.

Proxmox supports OCI containers natively now

As of 9.1, and kind of. To be clear what its doing is not a drop-in replacement for docker, but using that image as a basis for an lxc - so you’re not just pulling a new image to update, more like re-deploying, so keep your stored data elsewhere, outside of the lxc. So what was handled by pulling an image or a change to a compose is done manually in proxmox now, but it does make things like backups/snapshots much more consistent and proxmox-native.

I think the misunderstanding is that I’m running every single service as Docker inside its own LXC. That’s not actually what I’m doing.

I split things by service boundary. For example, Pi-hole + Unbound has its own LXC, Lemmy has its own LXC, Immich has its own LXC, etc. Most of those run natively in LXC without Docker at all.

Docker is only there where the application actually expects/benefits from it. I’m not adding a Docker layer everywhere just for the sake of it.

The reason I prefer this over one giant LXC with everything docker- inside. is the management side.

Yes, there is some overhead. But LXC containers are much lighter than VMs. They share the host kernel and use Linux namespaces/cgroups for isolation, so you’re not paying the cost of a full virtualized OS. The extra memory/CPU overhead is minimal compared to the management benefits I get from separating services.

The Docker overhead only exists on the services that actually need Docker. A lot of my services run directly in their own LXC without Docker at all.

Could I put everything into one LXC and run Docker Compose? Sure. It would probably work fine. But for my homelab, ease of maintenance and recovery is just as important as raw resource efficiency.

My last gen Homeserver was like this too. It worked okay, but network configuration, especially port forwarding and ipv6 sucked.

My current generation is just debian stable again, it just works.

Wait, we’re putting stickers in the case now?

Thanks!!!

Yea! It really doesn’t break a sweat. Most of the time it sits around 5-20W (legit jumps between 5W and 20W) while hosting everything, with around 5-15% CPU utilization. Though I do share it with other people, so it may not be as “idle” as I think it is. With all services stopped and nothing running, it obviously uses way less power.

I also have a Windows VM for someone else, which basically acts as a terminal server for development. They run Linux and need Windows for developing something, but they said “I don’t want Windows anywhere on my physical system”, so I gave them a VM to use instead.

I also like using my server as a playground to test things. It saves me having to install VM software on my PCs and keeps experiments separate.

Originally, I used GPU passthrough to a VM, but I stopped doing that because I wanted multiple services to be able to use the GPU while still keeping everything isolated. Unfortunately, my GPU isn’t nice enough for NVIDIA vGPU support.

So passing it directly into containers was the next best option - although definitely the more tedious route to set up. The efficiency gains are pretty nice though.

It also only pulls around 300W at max load (CPU + GPU), but the load is very variable and heavy usage isn’t that dramatic. Normal “heavy” use is closer to around 120W (CPU + GPU).

In the future, I’d love to move to an ARM-based server for even better efficiency, once the hardware becomes more readily available and practical for server use. The efficiency gains are really interesting, but the ecosystem and availability still need some time to catch up.

Also, your setup sounds really nice. Those mini-PC “servers” are honestly impressive for what they can do nowadays. The power efficiency and silence are hard to beat, and having two separate machines gives you a nice balance of reliability and flexibility. It’s cool seeing how far you can push small hardware with the right services.

Woah, thanks for the article!

Great article, they always gave of that energy tbh. But I did not bother and also didn’t use it enough that it would matter. Good to have a write up about it. Thanks for sharing.

Öllamae probably

Ollama/Openwebui, Immich, Snapotter and cause degoog can use ollama.

Might as well go for it. There will be more updates in the future.

Same. When I first started down that path I kept finding posts about how it was impossible to set up and maintain but it’s been pretty painless for me. I basically had no clue what I was doing and I figured it out just fine.

@ndupont Stickers, yes. Colored sticks. I put little stickers all over the computers. Most stickers have mundane details (like host name, Subnet, etc.) but I also use a sticker for each major service. Everything else is documented in notebooks or spreadsheets. It’s probably overkill, but, between my memory and the home-grown gradual evolution of my #homelab, stickers really useful. I have 9 or so computers (rack-mounted), more controllers spread around (e.g., ESP32s running WLED, Pi Zeros), and nearly 250 individual devices for #homeautomation. I’m trying to learn about FOSS for configuration control but that’s slow going.

I really like those big cases. Lots of room for expansion and cooling I’ve got an old CoolerMaster Cosmos II.

I took the bottom rails and retrofitted casters on it. It’s huge and hard to move around. Stands about 30" tall.