A newbie's guide to self-hosting with YunoHost. Part 4: backups (blog.elenarossini.com)
from mesamunefire@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 04:52
https://piefed.social/c/selfhosted/p/1786114/a-newbie-s-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-4-backups

The fourth article in my series about “self-hosting for newbies” explaining how I take care of backups for my YunoHost server.

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atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 05:15 next collapse

In part one, I explained why I’m passionate about self-hosting and I discussed what you need to get started on this journey (a VPS and a domain name)

You didn’t need either of those things. This reads like an ad for yunohost.

rimu@piefed.social on 17 Feb 05:33 next collapse

No, it’s legit. Elena has been tooting and peertubing about the fedi and her self hosting journey for over a year.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 05:44 collapse

It still reads like an ad for yunohost…

I think one of the mistakes many newb self hosters make is thinking of systems in their entirety rather than as components.

“How to install pihole on a raspberry pi” and “how to setup nextcloud on yunohost” are examples. All using very specific tools and very specific steps.

I’m noticing this more and more with documentation for apps where they tell me to use their specific docker-compose file and have instructions to use let’s encrypt in a specific way rather than referring you to let’s encrypt as an option and pointing you at their docs.

People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.

ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de on 17 Feb 06:22 next collapse

How can something be an ad when there is nothing to sell?

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 15:21 collapse

“Reads like an ad” - see also “simile”.

ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de on 17 Feb 16:10 collapse

In germany when we say, sounds like, looks like or reads like, we mean it is. Sorry when i misunderstood.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 16:14 collapse

That’s fair - I’ll keep that in mind in the future to be more clear.

kossa@feddit.org on 17 Feb 06:22 next collapse

Depends highly on the people. I learned that way, to get started with recipes enabled me to get early successes which in turn motivated me.

Down the road I needed different things from my setup, which could not be found in a simple recipe anymore, so I needed to learn the parts of the machine.

tedd_deireadh@piefed.social on 17 Feb 07:18 collapse

Exactly. Both newbies and experienced admins aren’t always looking for a general summary on how to build something. Sometimes we need a direct, easy guide to build the tool we’ve already decided to implement. Let them read the documentation so I don’t have to.

non_burglar@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 13:35 collapse

Let them read the documentation so I don’t have to.

Exactly why the article promotes stupidity. Why in the world would you put those words down proudly?

artyom@piefed.social on 17 Feb 10:55 collapse

It still reads like an ad for yunohost…

An ad for what, exactly? Yunohost doesn’t have anything to sell you…

Sometimes people are just passionate about things. Like digital sovereignty.

People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.

Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 12:40 collapse

Sometimes people are just passionate about things. Like digital sovereignty.

🙄

Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.

I’m always a little surprised when people are passionate about being ignorant.

artyom@piefed.social on 17 Feb 12:56 collapse

I am too, which is why your comments are so surprising.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 15:18 collapse

Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go.

Yeah - I’m the one wallowing in ignorance.

artyom@piefed.social on 17 Feb 15:21 collapse

Yes, you’re the one ignorant of the fact that people want (and should have) digital sovereignty without needing a software engineering degree.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 15:28 collapse

Er… I’m not - I’m deriding that fact. Do you know what “ignorant” means?

artyom@piefed.social on 17 Feb 15:30 collapse

Was that supposed to be English?

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 17 Feb 15:47 collapse

Really grasping now aren’t ya?

artyom@piefed.social on 17 Feb 15:56 collapse

I’m really not.

ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de on 17 Feb 05:35 next collapse

You are right, you don’t need yunohost, but it makes selfhosting pretty easy.

send from my piefed instance hosted by yunohost ^^

electric_nan@lemmy.ml on 17 Feb 13:13 collapse

I have used (and loved) Yunohost for a long time, and I host it at home. A few years back, I did set up a vps to proxy the traffic (over wireguard) so that I could actually get a letsencrypt cert. Some apps really don’t like self-signed certs.

non_burglar@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 13:26 collapse

You do not need a VPS, proxy, or wireguard for letsencrypt.

electric_nan@lemmy.ml on 17 Feb 15:34 collapse

I don’t remember exactly why, but I couldn’t get it to work any other way. First problem was incoming port 80 blocked by my ISP.

androidul@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 07:53 next collapse

reads about the correct pronunciation

couple paragraphs below, still pronounces YunoHost the same wrong way

dammit

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 10:05 collapse

selfhosting

yunohost

pick one.