People who are staying on Plex, have you tried Jellyfin? What about it do you not prefer? (real question)
from kiol@discuss.online to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 22 May 15:51
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from kiol@discuss.online to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 22 May 15:51
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Honest question, because I know multiple people who are not looking to jump ship since they already have the Plex Pass.
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Ease of use for my users across multiple platforms with minimal tech knowledge on their end. I’m sharing my library with ranges from 12yo to 70. I need it to “just work” and it does that perfectly.
Did you try Jellyfin? I’ve had success with Jellyfin once I’ve been the one setting up the TV app, etc. It did just work, because users found it very simple in comparison to Plex. If anything, they like how Plex shows more things beyond the collection.
That is exactly the issue. I can’t personally set up the app for all my users. Most of them are not in my household.
Me either, but I don’t expect them to setup any sort of app themself (including Plex).
That’s his point though, he does expect them to be able to set up themselves, and apparently Plex is good for that.
Yes, in my case I personally had to setup both clients (Plex and Jellyfin) for the family members myself.
And right back to lemmy.cafe/comment/17371392
Ah, the answer to that… I configured the server beforehand and installed it at their house as a gift, so I have persistent SSH access over VPN and can administer it remotely at will within tmux. Has worked for several years.
Had to find it, but there is a new tvOS app that looks very nice: Moonfin
Thanks do letting me know about this. I tried it and it does look good. Sadly for me at least it does perform well. Moves slow between options and libraries. And the Live TV Guide isn’t working at all. That could be a me issue, but the slowness is unacceptable. Once I have more time I will play it more and probably reach out to the Dev.
I use both at home, mostly plex though and I have about a dozen people who watch remotely and keeping the remote access private and secure I’m not putting jellyfin behind a public reverse proxy. Not feasible to setup wire guard for a dozen people across 4 states and troubleshooting those tunnels when Plex does all that for me. Plus Plex allows them to manage and reset their password without my intervention
Same here. Plex just works for my folks with 0 tech literacy. I may try Jellyfin in the future, but I have a few friends that primarily access Plex via Playstation 4/5, and I know there’s no support there yet.
Yeah, lacking the client is not good. features.jellyfin.org/…/playstation-5-support
I’ve never understood this stance. You do you, but if I’m offering to host stuff for friends or family for free, they can at least learn to operate that thing on their end.
What do they need to even learn? How to login using the username you gave them?
It seems to depend on how you are granting access and have configured the server… if they have to setup VPN access in order to access Jellyfin, as opposed to logging into plex website.
No, that doesn’t change anything about what I said really.
To me, if I’m hosting something for my friends and family, they can put in the effort to learn how to use it. Period. Whether that’s as simple as logging in through a browser, installing an app, or using a VPN. They can learn, or they can pay for Netflix (as an example, since we’re discussing a media server originally).
I definitely have noticed that it is important to install metadata plugins like imdb, as well as fanart, in order to feel closer to Plex. Users like seeing Rotten Tomato and IMBD scores, in addition to cast info and such.
The client apps on Apple TV are just not good. I have tried swiftfin which is slow and I find it not very visually appealing. There there is infuse which does look better, but is missing features and requires a subscription for full functionality. If there is a app I’m missing I would be happy to try it.
I keep Jellyfin up to date and check in or it from time to time. Even have watchstate so my watched history stays updated. Hoping one day there will be a good Apple TV app and I could fully switch.
I’m in the same boat. Considering swapping out for a Linux based media box instead of the AppleTV.
Kodi works well as a frontend to Jellyfin and Plex
Absolutely, my other friends are doing the same. They keep their state synced between services and keep checking in on the AppleTV client improvements for Swiftfin.
I use Jellyfin on my phone and just do the screen share to my AppleTV.
Infuse is fine. Subscription has a lifetime option, or it’s $1/month.
Same boat on Swiftfin and Infuse.
There’s one I recently found called Moonfin that does many things well. It’s my current go-to until official apps catch up.
Can it import my Plex settings, categorized titles, and watched lists for all my users? And whatever other things I’m not thinking of…
It’s on my radar, but I have a lot of data, custom images, etc. it would need to be 1:1
Watchstate can for sure by synced with JellyPlex-Watched. PlexyFin will sync over artwork & collections as well.
Good to know. Thanks. I’m definitely looking for alternatives these days. Even though I’m self hosting Plex, I don’t trust it can work without their cloud and they will probably cut it off or limit it at some point.
It’s possible, but a project.
This is a good set of instructions on how to do it.
Nice guide!
I have both. Plex for family and Jellyfin for me. I still don’t have hardware transcoding working (probably a permission thing. It’s always permissions) and haven’t had much time to tinker this year. Plex just… worked.
I can use Jellyfin without transcoding, but only one or two users at a time is all my CPU can handle.
Same, directplay at 1080
Admittedly this was 4 years ago, but the lack of documentation was frustrating. I don’t know if remote streaming or transcoding was even a thing back then, but I could find little to nothing about much of anything. Now I just don’t have the time. I switched to Stremio + plugins for TV and movies, and I’m content to keep using Plexamp for my vinyl rips until it stops working.
Jellyfin has definitely gotten leaps and bounds better in the last 4 years.
Agree with most of the other comments here, but number one for me is PlexAmp.
Dedicated music on Jellyfin is something I’ve never been able to wrap my head around. Would be curious if others have figured something out that works really well within the same ecosystem.
100%, Plexamp is amazing when you really get into it.
I use both still, Jellyfins UI can be a bit janky sometimes and it does not sync viewing progress of the same episode or movie across UHD and HD content, which Plex does.
Overall I think Jellyfin is better though.
Lifetime subscriber when it was like $75 bux
Setup and runs on my NAS (unRAID) Uses a small GPU to transcode as needed Shared only with non technical family members
Has worked as is for YEARS.
So, the question is, am I looking for something to replace a working free (prepaid) solution I have? That answer is nope.
Having non-technical family on board is priceless tbh.
This is my POV. It already works perfectly, is prepaid, and is accessible to my nontechnical users. Switching would be a major pain for a worse experience.
Also, Plexamp.
Someday in the future no doubt Plex will enshittify for lifetime users such that it will justify a change, but that hasn’t happened.
There's still a bunch of outstanding API security issues last I checked, so it's not secure enough for me to open to the web.
Teaching friends and family to use it with a VPN is a whole another can. Also, you'll have to make sure the VPN is secure and users don't have access to the rest of your network...
and then you'll have to deal with client apps/access for mobile, android boxes, TVs, and Chromecasts...
I got lucky with the Plex Pass too so I can only ride this out to the end until Jellyfin catches up. (also, I'm not good to contribute code)
Any particular API security issues? Never considered exposing Jellyfin, but can certainly understand how it simplifies access.
This was the security report from awhile back:
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
Lot's of things have been fixed but theres still much to do. The issue was broken down to smaller issues for tracking and I check back every once in a while.
Even if there were no security issues, exposing jellyfin is also another can... choice of:
Don’t you have to open a port for Plex remote access?
I think the difference is Plex offers a web address you can use for logging into Plex and for sharing it with others. So, you get a friendly admin interface with oauth for logging in from other popular services as the Plex user getting setup.
I have both. Plex is better with music at this time, which is a huge use for me. Jellyfin has a quicker UI and i swear looks better streaming to my TV, but could just be bias.
Have you tried PlexAmp? And, are you doing music entirely through the base Jellyfin app? Interesting to know you prefer the music experience on Jellyfin.
Plex was good for music for me until it started acting weirdly a few months ago. It started scanning my library nonstop and running my hard drives on full speed for days before I eventually caught it.
I was told it was the agent from Plex but changing that out didn’t fix the issue so I moved my stuff off there and have been working with Navidrome instead.
Jellyfin needs to fix their bugs around having the same artist listed multiple times in your library.
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I tried Jellyfin probably 2 years ago and it was fine but Plex is just “plug n play” in regard to my family setting it up themselves with little help from me.
Plexamp is the only way I stream music too so that’s a big reason why I won’t move yet.
No free Apple TV app is kind of a deal-breaker. Even Emby has one. Also the Roku app still crashes fairly regularly for me just randomly either browsing or during playback.
I'd love to use it fulltime but I don't want to have to buy new devices just to use it. Plex already works and I picked up a lifetime pass when it wasn't insanely priced.
So, two free options.
I’ve had little luck with Swiftfin. Last time I tried it, it wouldn’t connect to my server by IP: port.
That happened to me related to needing http:// https:// before the ip, then it worked. Also added avahi mdns, to use hostname.local instead of ip
I have both. My main gripe with Jellyfin is the the Google TV app. It doesn't seem to have an easily accessible skip 30 or jump to next chapter option. If that was improved, I might be ready to ditch Plex.
I’m aware of the intro skipper plugin. Also set my default skip under
Profile / Skip forward length / 30 secondsAlso, it seems Chapter Segments Provider was recently introduced as a plugin, which you’ll need to install to "Create media segments based on chapters."
WhatI’ve noticed is that people who prioritize privacy and just want to watch their downloads on their tv usually use jellyfin and people who prioritize ux slickness and want to run an IPTV service for their friends and family usually use plex.
if you install it and do not add plugins or mods or download them manually or with another tool, there is no way to pull subtitles.
You also need to sideload the app because it’s not available in app stores.
That’s the blockers for me… though the plugin for subtitles that now exists I have yet to try, and it may make it doable.
Which app stores (plural?) does not have jellyfin apps?
PS5, Fire TV Cube, Samsung TVs are what i’d use it on. Those app stores.
I know android/ios has it nowadays, but manufacturers generally don’t want to offer apps that do not drive referrals or some kind of revenue sharing with competing services.
These should help.
I can find github links to 3rd party clients dude to sideload. I know all about it.
What I don’t want to do is support my extended friends and family who can figure out how to log into a plex tv app. I do enough tech support for money to not want to do it for free.
The amazon appstore one has limited support and it really depends on the device… and often many aspects do not work as expected, like you can’t just play dolby vision files without forcing it to transcode on some hardware. I understand some of this is hardware limitations of various fire tv hardware, but again, don’t want to figure that shit out.
Plus I would need to walk people through entering the network information, there’s no web portal that will let people in just by logging into a single plain as day website last I checked. Sure, I could pay for a no-ip sub or something or actually start paying for a domain but all of this stuff is even more work, when my existing setup just works and has none of these problems and has yet to intrude on usability for what I already have. When it gets worse i’ll obviously switch.
Jellyfin has a builtin subtitle search and download tool I’m pretty sure. I know I’ve done it right from jellyfin, and I don’t think I’ve installed any plugin for that…
oh, you didn’t have to create an opensubtitles account and set it up on your server with the plugin? Someone told me about this like a day ago. Kinda weird this would even exist if there is robust subtitle support natively now. https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/plugins/open-subtitles/
A year ago I was unable to source subtitles unless I provided them.
My wife is an immigrant and some of her family doesn’t speak any English really, so subtitle support is of utmost importance for our household. Not just English subtitles either.
Sideload in which appstore? Jellyfin requires adding functionality through plugins, instead of pre-bundling. Definitely something where more documentation and guidance would go a long way in helping us feel more confident in both using, and switching, to it.
The lack of library sharing is what’s keeping me on Plex.
The ability to watch media across servers, and even transparently pull it for local transcode when necessary is just an amazing feature.
This multi-server front project, Jellyswarrm is really interesting, which allows the Jellyfin clients to access more than one Jellyfin server simultaneously. I think it may do what you want when combined with server sync.
Would definitely test extensively before putting in production, hehe.
It doesn’t really solve my use-case, since we do a combination of direct stream when possible, as well as local sync/cache but only for transcoding purposes. As well as local users only, with the federated sharing taking care of permissions, so that we don’t transfer user information between eachother.
Jellyswarrm is certainly a lot closer than other solutions people have suggested though.
I have tried it but having Plex handle the out-of-home routing for me securely is a great feature Jellyfin doesn’t have but doesn’t for obvious reasons and I justify that as why I pay Plex. I have thoughts and better knowledge now about how to properly implement it, but I’m not sure I want to rebuild my current setup that just works with very minimal upkeep.
That and I am on someone else’s Plex server who updates it much more than I do. Mine just supplements theirs with stuff they don’t have and one-offs I’ve wanted and found. I’d still be using Plex even if I did rebuild with Jellyfin today.
But if these price increases keep coming, I may make the switch. It’s tempting to shell out the money for the lifetime membership, but I don’t have faith in companies, including Plex, to keep up their end of the deal on these things.
I’m not switching at this time because I already bought a lifetime pass about 7 years ago. If ANY of my functionality gets changed by Plex then I’ll be switching
They already changed the authentication system a few years ago. Everything goes through their server now. You can’t self-host it.
I use Emby instead of Plex or Jellyfin; mostly because it has an Xbox client, and I’ve already got a lifetime licence. One of my most active users only watches via Xbox.
Really don’t like Plexs centralised user system or the overall direction they’ve been headed for years, so I moved away from that long ago (8+ years ago at least). Jellyfin wasn’t up to par at the time (though they’ve made leaps and bounds of progress in that time), and Emby has always supported more types of devices\clients. Their device limit (the client count limit with premeir) has never come into play for me, but I know there are larger user bases out there where that is a problem.
Embys development is extremely slow though, taking YEARS to implement simple features or even address major concerns. Plus their support sucks without the community stepping in and providing it on behalf of the staff. Luke (the main dev) is better at copy+pasting candid responses than he is at actually interacting with human beings.
I’m not using Plex, but I feel like I can answer my complaints about using jellyfin.
My biggest complaint is the lack of clients. It is such a pain in the butt to install jellyFin on all of my products.
My second complaint is the security design. They’ve had open issues about unauthenticated endpoints for three or four years now. And whenever the issue gets so old that it starts to look bad, they refactor the issue into a newer issue abd bury it in the sand.
For a while this was done under the guise of maintaining legacy client support, but just recently it looks like they’re starting to focus on more security, and I’ve noticed some of those security holes are being closed finally, but it’s a major concern for me that they’ve been open for as long as they have.
I got started with jellyfin and never used Plex but there’s a bunch of rough edges:
What about exposing through Pangolin tunnel, Cloudflare Tunnel, Tailscale Funnel approach? Would that allow proper client access?
I don’t have time.
I absolutely love jellyfin and frequently take advantage of its features. But the client absolutely suck butt. When I can hardly get my mom to remember which app on her TV lets her watch what, I can’t also have her fucking around with play buttons that don’t do what they say, a “continue watching” list that’s often haunted by episodes that have been marked as watched, or inscrutable menu icons mashed into the top-right corner of a media browser.
And don’t get me started on getting people logged in on the client.
I only use my library with jellyfin and only locally. I left plex a few years ago. What I really want to set up next is a UI that uses a simple remote control and ditch the Roku interface so I can be seamlessly offline.