The right time to look elsewhere was when Microsoft bought it.
The next best time was when viable alternatives like GitLab and later, Codeberg appeared.
The next best time was when it became clear that they were stealing your code to feed into their sparkly autocomplete and were going to sell it back to you.
The next best time was when they dumped a bunch of vibecoded garbage into the codebase and killed the uptime.
The next best time is now.
You don’t even have to migrate all your stuff. Just start all your new projects on Codeberg, or GitLab, or something self-hosted. Once you get used to the new place, you can migrate your old stuff when you’re ready.
For forgejo I’m actually not too sure - “feel” is vague but the best I’ve got, maybe someone more UI inclined has clearer thoughts on it. Or maybe I just need to get used to it. It’s certainly much better than Gitlab imo.
onlinepersona@programming.dev
on 17 Aug 21:52
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It’s old Github UI
starshipwinepineapple@programming.dev
on 18 Aug 00:42
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Well of the major options out there that’s not github you’re looking at gitlab, forgejo/codeberg, or sourcehut. Sourcehut is the most minimalistic UI so you may love it or hate it. Otherwise i personally would value open source over UI which is why i use codeberg.
Red arrows mean duplicated information or duplicated navigational elements.
Green arrow means why the fuck do I have to tell our customers to click a random link in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, in order to download our software?
Honestly, for me the Forgejo/Codeberg UI is the best out there, I actually like it even better than GitHub. I think you just need to get used to it.
If you had been using Codeberg the last 10 years and just discovered GitHub today, you’d take one look at it and say the UI is bad.
Self-hosted Forgejo works well for my own use. My employer is moving to GitHub Enterprise where it’s a separate instance per company with certain infra shared. Should be a slight improvement, I guess, though probably not a bad idea to make sure internal tooling is built with the git forge being configurable. 😉
I used to run Gitea and switched to Forgejo mainly because I prefer a community project over one run by a for-profit company. I never had any substantive complaints against Gitea during my time with it to be honest, but thought I’d get off of it before investing too much further in case it went in a bad direction.
Moved to codeberg.org when that Microslop VP took over running github. I have nothing on the platform but my account so I can look at other stuff on the site.
onlinepersona@programming.dev
on 17 Aug 21:55
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I’ve used. It works well enough. They supposedly have CI but either it’s not documented or nor ready, I can’t tell.
And there’s no way to get notifications of merge requests, comments or anything actually, so it serves well as a backup or private project host, but not much else, IMO.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 21:32
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Is your code free for others to do whatever the fuck they want to with it? : codeberg
Do you want to put certain restrictions (eg financial)? Gitlab
AustralianSimon@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 00:57
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Codeberg doesn’t allow you to use AI with your repos. Even if it is just writing your docs for you.
Radicle is decentralised though!
Skullgrid@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 01:06
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Yeah, I don’t think I have a codeberg going at the moment because I want to do CC4NC.
There’s like some scripts I don’t mind people making derived commercial works since they’re fucking tiny, but other than that, I don’t want people getting rich off my code.
AustralianSimon@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 02:34
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I also have lots of scripts I find handy but would never share. I just need a safe third party to host it.
You can always self host forgejo, but yeah, codeberg is an opinionated place, I suspect primarily due to resource constraints. Not a github replacement and not really trying to be.
onlinepersona@programming.dev
on 17 Aug 21:56
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Federated git forges can’t come fast enough. Fuck gitlab for so willingly dropping the ball
lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip
on 18 Aug 01:22
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Al I the only one that needs to press F5 to get github to load after entering github.com in the browser? It only happen with github.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Aug 04:00
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I filled out an IT helpdesk request last week because I couldn’t push any updates to GitHub. I was able to access the site, so I though my access token was retired since that happens every once in awhile.
Nope. It was GitHub. For some reason it couldn’t accept my push despite the website still being up. And I didn’t find out until the tech called the the next day and it worked when I tried to recreate it in front of them
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
on 18 Aug 04:15
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Unicorn error!
But the big issue for me is the authwalls. I’ll migrate when we have a good replacement on the fediverse, when PRs and issue comments can be made from different instances
I mean yes, Microsoft and slopcode probably plays a role, but it only got really bad once the LLM mass scraping started, for which I assume Github is also a major target.
And running your own public git forge is a real PITA these days for similar reasons.
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Yeah it was completely useless today.
The right time to look elsewhere was when Microsoft bought it.
The next best time was when viable alternatives like GitLab and later, Codeberg appeared.
The next best time was when it became clear that they were stealing your code to feed into their sparkly autocomplete and were going to sell it back to you.
The next best time was when they dumped a bunch of vibecoded garbage into the codebase and killed the uptime.
The next best time is now.
You don’t even have to migrate all your stuff. Just start all your new projects on Codeberg, or GitLab, or something self-hosted. Once you get used to the new place, you can migrate your old stuff when you’re ready.
This is exactly it, Microsoft always makes things about themselves. They change everything, mostly for the worse.
GitHub Has a Microsoft Problem. Is It Time to Look Elsewhere?
Breaking: Water is wet. Read the in-depth analysis on why you should have gotten a boat years ago and why you should still get one now!
But wait, there’s more: a gigantic colony of Microtards that don’t understand why the water is wet, and they don’t care!
More news at 11.
Any alternatives with a good UI? Really don’t like the ones for codeberg or gitlab tbh, and GitHub is bearable
What do you find bad about Forgejo / Codeberg’s UI?
For forgejo I’m actually not too sure - “feel” is vague but the best I’ve got, maybe someone more UI inclined has clearer thoughts on it. Or maybe I just need to get used to it. It’s certainly much better than Gitlab imo.
It’s old Github UI
Well of the major options out there that’s not github you’re looking at gitlab, forgejo/codeberg, or sourcehut. Sourcehut is the most minimalistic UI so you may love it or hate it. Otherwise i personally would value open source over UI which is why i use codeberg.
I could rant a lot about the GitHub UX, so here’s just the fairly obvious stuff on the repository page:
<img alt="Screenshot of the repository overview page. There’s a lot of duplicated information." src="https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/b91f2832-189c-477a-b620-77f631767a67.webp">
Red arrows mean duplicated information or duplicated navigational elements.
Green arrow means why the fuck do I have to tell our customers to click a random link in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, in order to download our software?
Honestly, for me the Forgejo/Codeberg UI is the best out there, I actually like it even better than GitHub. I think you just need to get used to it. If you had been using Codeberg the last 10 years and just discovered GitHub today, you’d take one look at it and say the UI is bad.
Self-hosted Forgejo works well for my own use. My employer is moving to GitHub Enterprise where it’s a separate instance per company with certain infra shared. Should be a slight improvement, I guess, though probably not a bad idea to make sure internal tooling is built with the git forge being configurable. 😉
I’ve been eyeing Gitea. Do you have any reason for using Forgejo that I might overlook Gitea in favor of it?
I used to run Gitea and switched to Forgejo mainly because I prefer a community project over one run by a for-profit company. I never had any substantive complaints against Gitea during my time with it to be honest, but thought I’d get off of it before investing too much further in case it went in a bad direction.
That is a solid enough reason and one I wasn’t aware of. Exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to find out, thank you!
Moved to codeberg.org when that Microslop VP took over running github. I have nothing on the platform but my account so I can look at other stuff on the site.
Radicle radicle.dev
I’ve used. It works well enough. They supposedly have CI but either it’s not documented or nor ready, I can’t tell.
And there’s no way to get notifications of merge requests, comments or anything actually, so it serves well as a backup or private project host, but not much else, IMO.
Already migrated to gitea
Is your code free for others to do whatever the fuck they want to with it? : codeberg
Do you want to put certain restrictions (eg financial)? Gitlab
Codeberg doesn’t allow you to use AI with your repos. Even if it is just writing your docs for you.
Radicle is decentralised though!
Yeah, I don’t think I have a codeberg going at the moment because I want to do CC4NC.
There’s like some scripts I don’t mind people making derived commercial works since they’re fucking tiny, but other than that, I don’t want people getting rich off my code.
I also have lots of scripts I find handy but would never share. I just need a safe third party to host it.
You can always self host forgejo, but yeah, codeberg is an opinionated place, I suspect primarily due to resource constraints. Not a github replacement and not really trying to be.
Federated git forges can’t come fast enough. Fuck gitlab for so willingly dropping the ball
Al I the only one that needs to press F5 to get github to load after entering github.com in the browser? It only happen with github.
I filled out an IT helpdesk request last week because I couldn’t push any updates to GitHub. I was able to access the site, so I though my access token was retired since that happens every once in awhile.
Nope. It was GitHub. For some reason it couldn’t accept my push despite the website still being up. And I didn’t find out until the tech called the the next day and it worked when I tried to recreate it in front of them
Unicorn error!
But the big issue for me is the authwalls. I’ll migrate when we have a good replacement on the fediverse, when PRs and issue comments can be made from different instances
We need decentralized forge such as radicle.dev to become more mainstream and people seeding tons of repo!
I mean yes, Microsoft and slopcode probably plays a role, but it only got really bad once the LLM mass scraping started, for which I assume Github is also a major target.
And running your own public git forge is a real PITA these days for similar reasons.