Funkwhale - A platform for all your audio (www.funkwhale.audio)
from lautan@lemmy.ca to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 15:02
https://lemmy.ca/post/20018292

Funkwhale - A platform for all your audio

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Damage@slrpnk.net on 25 Apr 15:46 next collapse

The website looks like it’s trying to sell me something

lautan@lemmy.ca on 25 Apr 15:50 next collapse

No it’s an open-source service to host your audio.

ThetaDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Apr 17:01 collapse

I have no idea why open source projects would want to use illustrations with this big tech corporate artstyle in their apps and documetation pages.

They seem to get them from undraw.co

Lemongrab@lemmy.one on 25 Apr 17:59 collapse

It looks clean, maybe not very original but better than a early 2000s looking-ass website

kugmo@sh.itjust.works on 25 Apr 19:02 next collapse

I’d welcome an early 2000s website because it shows the developer can have some fun.

Lemongrab@lemmy.one on 26 Apr 00:58 collapse

This is true

tehWrapper@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 21:09 collapse

I had more fun in the 2000

kernelle@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 15:52 next collapse

And possible federation as well, very nice. Is this using SolidPods or did they just name their* server similarly?

halm@leminal.space on 25 Apr 21:53 collapse

It is federated, but no, it isn’t connected to Solid pods. Pods are just the term for flocks of whales 🙂

aodhsishaj@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 16:04 next collapse

What if we added a P2P element so we could share our music and own it instead of streaming it? Oh wait, that’s soulseek.

Who keeps posting this? This feels inches away from a monetized subscription service.

chris@l.roofo.cc on 25 Apr 16:11 next collapse

What are you saying? This is an open source project that is connected to the fediverse. It aims to be something comparable to soundcloud where people can share their music. What about this is says monetization?

aodhsishaj@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 16:13 collapse

The publishing referenced in the ad copy. There’s no talk of how licensing is handled or who hosts what where. Just because it starts off as OSS and self hosted does not mean it stays that way.

chris@l.roofo.cc on 25 Apr 16:18 collapse

I am unsure if I understand you correctly. Funkwhale is for you to publish music or other audio you make yourself. Not for your commercial music library. And the software itself is under the GNU AGPLv3. You can host the software yourself on your own server or you join an instance of someone else. Just like lemmy, mastodon or all the other fediverse projects.

aodhsishaj@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 16:29 collapse

Correct, so when I post my song I created to Funkwhale, it’s then federated across the fediverse, living on other servers and able to be downloaded.

Let’s say I use the wikimedia license and allow reproduction of my music as long as I’m credited.

Someone in the fediverse likes my song and they download it. Then use it in their licensed DRM enabled media and give me no credit.

Who then protects my license and attribution rights beside myself? Does this open up others in the fediverse who hosted my media and allowed download to suit? The courts that would hear the case are unlikely to provide a distinction between the user who stole my media and those hosting it.

What prevents Funkwhale from charging a fee for their streaming app and profiting from my song and cutting me out of profit share? Which is exactly what digital distributors do all the time.

How does Funkwhale prevent the upload and sharing of licensed music by unlicensed parties?

None of this is referenced in the documentation or ad copy on the site.

I’ve seen funkwhale posted here multiple times, and these questions are never addressed.

rglullis@communick.news on 25 Apr 17:31 next collapse

Correct, so when I post my song I created to Funkwhale, it’s then federated across the fediverse, living on other servers and able to be downloaded.

AFAIK, the songs do not get distributed across the Fediverse, only the link to the original server.

Someone in the fediverse likes my song and they download it. Who then protects my license and attribution rights beside myself?

How is it different from you hosting your songs on your own website?

How is it different from songs you made available through Bandcamp? Does Bandcamp go chasing people pirating your work and/or using in unlicensed cases (e.g, playing in a commercial setting)?

chris@l.roofo.cc on 25 Apr 17:46 collapse

Depending on your jurisdiction it is probably your responsibility to enforce your copyright. I can always just record your music off a streaming platform. You can attach a license to your song in funkwhale (see this). If you want DRM for your music then funkwhale is probably also not for your. You still have to enforce your self that nobody monetizes your works if you don’t allow it. You can delete things from the fediverse if you know the source but I don’t think funkwhale allows DRM protected music.

If you attach a license to your works that doesn’t allow monetization and they monetize the app you can sue them. I doubt they will though. And they probably wouldn’t be very successful because the app and the server are open source. You could just build the app without monetization. And someone probably would.

The upload and sharing copyrighted music probably falls into the hands of the instance admin. As with PeerTube it is probably not a good idea to have open signups. But everyone has to make sure that doesn’t happen.

The fediverse is an open and very liberal space. If you want full control over your works it is probably not for you. No software with federation probably is. If you want and need to control over your works (which is legitimate) you need something with a tighter grip, maybe host the things yourself on your server with DRM. That doesn’t mean it is bad for everyone.

butter@midwest.social on 25 Apr 16:13 collapse

I don’t think you’re supposed to host music you don’t have the rights to. I think you’re supposed to post your own music

aodhsishaj@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 16:15 collapse

That’s fair enough, so who handles licensing. How do you protect the copy left aspect of your music? How do you prevent your work from being freebooted?

butter@midwest.social on 25 Apr 16:31 collapse

You can disable downloading if your music is copyrighted. Or a layer for copy left of someone tries to take credit.

aodhsishaj@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 16:34 collapse

Where’s that in the documentation?

Sims@lemmy.ml on 25 Apr 20:45 next collapse

docs. docs.funkwhale.audio/index.html

matcha_addict@lemy.lol on 26 Apr 01:10 collapse

I know it’s not the intention, but can you use this to host copyrighted music?

rglullis@communick.news on 26 Apr 01:20 collapse

Yes, but if you put it a public library you will be opening yourself for all sorts of copyright trolls trying to sue you for file sharing.