Haven't been as busy as you guys, but still wanted to show off

Haven't been as busy as you guys, but still wanted to show off
from EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 00:06
https://lemmy.world/post/45093801

What’s everyone’s server naming scheme?

#selfhosted

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Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 03 Apr 00:56 next collapse

I used to name systems after Star Trek ships, but switched to Farscape characters ages ago. Now I’m doing more practical names based on function.

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 01:00 collapse

At this point I’m just tired of the acronym salad we all tend to deal with at work

“Wait, was I supposed to bounce CDBWINPROD02 or DBCWINPROD02?”

Figured if I had a choice I would use more “human” names that allow the servers to have more of a “personality”

Perse for example has been having an issue with it’s bios and it’s been spending quite a lot of time in the underworld LOL

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 03 Apr 03:52 collapse

God I hate the “stuff as much information into a server name as you can with no separators in all caps” naming conventions…

apftwb@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 04:34 next collapse

Home server larping as a real enterprise server.

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 11:25 next collapse

Amen, feels cold and unimaginative

Tetsuo@jlai.lu on 03 Apr 12:21 collapse

In a business with tens of thousands of servers, it makes sense to have long complicated names.

For a homelab ? Not really.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 03 Apr 13:56 collapse

In a business with tens of thousands of servers, it makes sense to have long complicated names.

I’m actually not convinced of this approach. It’s one of those things that makes perfect logical sense when you say it - but in practice “DBDWWHORCLHHIP01” is just as meaningless as “Hercules”. And it’s a lot more difficult to say, remember and differentiate from “DBDWWHORCLHHID01”. You may as well just use UUIDs at that point.

Humans are really good at associating names with things. It’s why people have names. We don’t call people “AMCAM601W” for a reason. Even in conversations you don’t rattle off the long initialism names of systems - you say “The <product> database”.

Tetsuo@jlai.lu on 03 Apr 15:20 collapse

I think you choose a poor example.

When I say long name I wasn’t implying meaningless ones.

Most business with a lot of machines uses long names where everything as a logical meaning.

[Site][service][Rack][User selected 8 chars name]

I mean you dont have to use such obtuse names. But if you have a lot of servers you have to have a long name or you will risk exhausting the available names.

I’m just saying long names dont have to be obtuse or confusing. You can use user selected names as a suffix to a more functional initial prefix. So that people who work this area of the infrastructure can have clear names but at the same time some other sys admin that never worked on it can still know where and who is responsible of the server.

My initial point is just that the namespace and length of hostnames mostly depends on what you want to do. For a homelab you dont need wide namespace. But for a large business using short names wouldn’t be practical either.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 03 Apr 16:06 collapse

I think you choose a poor example.

When I say long name I wasn’t implying meaningless ones.

Sooo, that example wasn’t exactly “contrived” - it’s based on a standard I see where I work.

DB - it's a database!
DW - and a data warehouse at that!
ORCL - It's an Oracle database!
HHI - Application or team using / managing this database
P - Production (T for Test - love the 1 char difference between names!)
01 - There may be more than one.

This is more what I’m arguing against - embedding meta-data about the thing into its name. Especially when all of that information is available in AWS metadata.

[Site][service][Rack] makes sense for on-premise stuff - no argument there.

I’m just saying long names dont have to be obtuse or confusing.

Agree

bzLem0n@lemmy.ca on 03 Apr 01:02 next collapse

Elements of the periodic table.

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 01:07 collapse

So what happens when you cluster Na with H20?

prettybunnys@piefed.social on 03 Apr 04:08 collapse

Big bada boom

flango@lemmy.eco.br on 03 Apr 01:13 next collapse

Hey I’m kinda struggling to get my stuff self hosted. I set proxmox up and now I don’t know what to do with it :D. Any suggestions?

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 02:01 next collapse

Soooo, proxmox is just the base of the ecosystem, it allows you to load a bunch of containers and virtual machines.

If you’re not sure what you want yo host check this page out.

www.turnkeylinux.org/lxc

They have a bunch of container templates that are ready to host.

I’ve been trying to replace could services with self hosted ones for me and my loved ones; these are some of my favorites:

Nextcloud: replaces onedrive and dropbox
Pangolin: Replaces Cloudflared (a little technical)
Jellifin: Locally hosted netflix clone
Game server: Awesome multi game server host, I use it to play minecraft with my nephews, has a ton of games you can host
Joomla: (or any other CMS) when you mix it with Pangolin, it’s an easy way to host a website
Netbird: overlay network manager that allows you to join multiple sites/networks as one LAN, it’s great for off site backups and to play with friends and family without having to host anything
Grafana: Monitoring, data analytics and alerts. It’s like task manager but a thousand times better.
Yunohost: It’s a one click install user friendly interface to manage web apps.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 14:04 collapse

www.turnkeylinux.org/lxc

Wasn’t there some drama recently about Turnkey? I vaguely remember some kind of kerfuffle.

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 15:08 collapse

Haven’t heard the gossip, please pray tell.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 15:37 collapse

I may be hallucinating. It’s kind of hard to keep up with everything sometimes. I’ll see if I can dig up something. I wasn’t throwing shade on your suggestion, or trying to inject doubt. It just triggered a light in my brain, but unfortunately, my brain has no recollection except that there was something. Thanks pos brain!

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 02:10 next collapse

P.s. Vault warden is an EXCELLENT self hosted password manager, highly recommend that as well.

osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org on 03 Apr 03:49 collapse

P.P.S Do not make a self-hosted password manager your first project. You should expect one of these first projects to absolutely eat shit for reasons you don't fully understand yet, and having it be your daily-driver password manager would be a hell of a shitty weekend.

Inquisitive@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Apr 10:29 next collapse

Speaking from experience?

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 11:27 next collapse

Very good advice, also backup daily and test for backups often !!!

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 14:06 collapse

hell of a shitty weekend.

LOL I have tossed the idea around about selfhosting a password manager, and while I am fairly confident in my server’s security, I finally conclude not to.

LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Apr 04:30 collapse

Proxmox helper scripts! These help a lot.

community-scripts.org/scripts

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 14:03 collapse

+1 for the helper scripts

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 02:38 next collapse

Is there a guide to set something like this up? I have jellyfin on Ubuntu server and I’d very much like to get something that’s got an interface I can understand.

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 02:43 next collapse

There are a ton of guides out there, but the problem with open source software is that you can make it as yours as you want so every deployment is different. You would be better off doing some googling on what you want to get to, and asking more specific questions. Everyone in the community loves to help, but we need to know how.

generallynonsensical@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 04:12 collapse

Heads up. I think you meant to reply but made a new comment.

IratePirate@feddit.org on 03 Apr 04:10 next collapse

Nice setup! Are all those LXCs rootless docker containers?

crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Apr 04:14 next collapse

Mine is Final Fantasy summon monsters!

LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Apr 04:34 next collapse

I’m boring. I’ll name physical hardware after the model name or manufacturer or something like that. My main host is just named “DellPVE” and then I’ll name VM/containers after the service it’s running, “radarr”, “plex”, “pihole” etc.

Bakkoda@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 10:51 next collapse

Utility mostly. My music stack vm is Music. Reversy is my reverse proxy. Photos? Yup that my immich vm. I’m boring lol

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 11:24 next collapse

Close, LCC. I do have a portrainer instance for docker images, but I like the extra control that San lxc gives you

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 12:57 next collapse

You know Dasher, and Dancer, and Prancer, and Vixen. Comet, and Cupid, and Donner, and Blitzen…

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 13:02 next collapse

🤣 do you switch to elf names after the first 12?

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 13:03 next collapse

Nice.

dimjim@sh.itjust.works on 03 Apr 13:12 next collapse

I went with a SciFi ship theme, my main server is VMS-HORIZON (Virtual Machine Ship). The VMs have ship component names like AUDIO-CORE (navidrome) and VISUAL-CORE (Immich).

My Raspberry Pi is named ORBITER, like a orbiting shuttle/satellite, and the VM it has is called BEACON (for Gotify)

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 14:15 next collapse

There are a TON of different tutorials and videos.

If you’re looking for a beginner friendly interface for your servers; I recommend “Cockpit” you just “sudo apt-get install cockpit” and it gives you a nice to use web interface to manage most of your servers, you can then install plugins as needed, for example you can install net bird or Pangolin to make it accessible from the internet.

If you want something more like what I’m doing here (Virtualization) you can try Canonical’s version of this which runs on ubuntu, They’re called LXD canonical.com/lxd/manage

Basically they’re tiny ritualized linux instances inside of your main ubuntu server (Containers) with their own kernel so that changes on the base server don’t bother your other apps.

Simyon@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 14:34 next collapse

I personally name my servers after Rain World iterators and creatures. I fear the day when I run out of names.

1984@lemmy.today on 03 Apr 14:41 next collapse

I named a lot of my machines hackbox…

Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Apr 14:49 next collapse

I name mine after greek and roman gods.

My NAS is bamed Hestia, the goddess of the bearth and home.

My docker server is called Poseidon due to the sea iconography of docker. My second iteration of my docker server where I tried playing around with podman I called Neptune.

I briefly had a Raspberry Pi for experimenting with some stuff which was called Eileithyia, the goddess of childbirth.

My Proxmox machine on which pretty much all ky other servers are run as VMs is called Atlas, as the Titan holding up my personal network.

I also have a truenas VM which I boringly called truenas…

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 15:07 next collapse

That’s AWESOME, I also named my NAS Atlas … because it carries the weight of all my backups

Good call on those names, you’re giving me some pretty cool ideas for my next servers

ohshit604@sh.itjust.works on 03 Apr 15:38 next collapse

Man I wish I spent time actually learning Proxmox, instead dumped everything into a headless Debian VM and called it a day.

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 18:40 collapse

I mean, you can always install Proxmox on Debian XD

or for that matter LXD … it’s all kinda the same.

Gotta love OSS

Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works on 03 Apr 17:28 collapse

My name scheme is song names. I listen to allot of folk rock, so some names are hollowmoon or foxlore.

Its a little spicier than anas or pnas

partofthevoice@lemmy.zip on 03 Apr 17:41 collapse

I’ve settled on this idea as a Python developer. I don’t care if I have long names. I care about:

understanding what it is merely by reading its name
ability to sort lexically and items be returned in a manner I find satisfying
uniform string structure, typically delimited by hyphen or underscore (I don’t care which, most of the time)

Names can be long. spark_write_operation_status_failfast is leagues better than some like write_op_stat