Plex Pass certainly has functionality and features that jellyfin doesn’t; just not $750 worth…
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
on 22 May 15:54
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Because Jellyfin did not exist back then and does not have feature parity today? But I know you just wanted to show everyone how smart you are for using Jellyfin…
Not at all. At least three or four people have said that PLEX has better features, but no one so far has said what features make it worth using or what makes it better. I found that Jellyfin was one of the easiest things to set up once I started my home server. I don’t have any background in tech or IT, I’m just a hobyist.
I went with Jellyfin when I was setting it up because it seemed easier and had a more active support community, but from looking at the two, they seemed basically interchangeable. I’ve never had a reason to look for something else, since Jellyfin works better than most of the corporate apps on my TV. It loads faster, has less lag, and is easier to navigate than Netflix, Disney, Prime, etc. My zero-tech family find it easy enough to use daily.
When I found out Plex charged, I thought that they were actually managing your remote storage or something. What is the market for people who want to pay to access their own files on their own hardware? I genuinely don’t get it. If you want to share it, out of your home network there is always Tailscale or the like.
Setup for Plex isn’t just easier, its basically non existent. Run the exe, point to folder, done. HW encoding just works, transcoding just works, metadata gathering just works.
remote streaming. No need to setup an elaborate VPN scheme and install a client for it on every device you want to have remote access. It just works and even punches through CGNAT and the like
Clients. Plex has a client for every system under the sun. No need for sideloading or anything like that, they are everywhere
UI. Plex has a sane and good looking ui for the streaming client and the admin interface.
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Jellyfin is not bad, but its just not a replacement for Plex. And the way the devs are acting, I doubt it ever will be
People like me who are too stupid to do it ourselves and too afraid of exposing our system to the internet
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 May 14:06
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I’m counting down the days until they revoke all existing lifetime passes. With this change and the recent bitwarden price increases, we’re definitely in the era of being squeezed for every dime from all sides.
Like many others, I bought the lifetime plex pass when it was relatively cheap but switched to jellyfin for personal use years ago. I keep plex running for family members but that’ll stop as soon as the lifetime pass goes away.
D1re_W0lf@piefed.social
on 22 May 16:03
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The Bitwarden news is really disappointing. I thought they were me of the “good guys” but it seems that was only the first phase of enshittification. I quite like their services but I’m starting to make my migration plans. 1password seems pretty reputable and their prices are relatively stable.
No loyalty to any brand or service, ever. Take your dollars and your time and your effort to whoever deserves it most. That even includes open source software.
Loyalty to a brand or company never made sense to me. Its a relationship or a contract. As soon as they start breaking that contract screw em.
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 May 18:39
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I’ve learned to start looking at alternatives as soon as I get a whiff of venture capital near anything I rely on. I hope I’m wrong but this is probably just the start of the downfall of bitwarden.
I’m on vaultwarden for now and keeping an eye on aliasvault and passbolt.
Yeah, I use VaultWarden for my passwords, but Bitwarden for secret management. There are a lot options for secret management. If necessary I could just host OpenBao on my NAS.
I can’t find the video anymore but I remember someone recreating retro cable TV using dizquetv and an RPi (maybe just for the “receiver”). Searching now, I mostly find that ErsatzTV and FieldStation42 seem to be the goto options. I keep bouncing the idea around of setting up actual “channels” for Jellyfin, complete with silly self-recorded ads/bumps/promos/etc, but haven’t decided on a solution.
If you’re already doing so, do you have any insights? At a glance, ErsatzTV Next appears the most dynamic but also most barebones in that focus is mainly on the streaming. Library management and station programming looks to be external, which would mean having to roll my own scripts or whatever.
There was a great channell that uploaded hours and hours lf recovered advertisements and it was really cool. I hate ads but a lot of the companies were dead so it was more nostalgic and interesting than anything.
There was also a dude who took all te youtube videos that were auto uploaded from te first iphone under the same generic name and created a random clipshow.
I’m not 100% sold on running actual ads although, if I recreated Nickelodeon, it might be fun to throw in commercials for stuff like Gak or the old Stick Stickley bits (provided I could find those). Maybe roll my own Snick and Nick-at-Nite blocks. For the latter it’d be neat to have some more period-correct stuff - even if it’s just Fred Flintstone hocking cigarettes or whatever.
I’d probably need to significantly expand my storage and media collection to make more than a couple channels doable. Definitely a bunch of bumps, “coming up next,” etc if I want to keep a strict 15/30/60 type schedule. And a 24/7 weather channel with the old WeatherStar 4000 style.
If you find the channel, let us know. I’d probably be keen to pull at least a handful of old adverts for padding.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
on 22 May 14:56
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As someone who paid around £120 for Emby lifetime: What the fuck
Of course, Plex really don’t seem to realise they are a laughing stock in this community.
Plex kind of beats Jellyfin in: music player support (but I believe in separate dedicated services rather than a jack-of-all-trades, so I’d recommend Navidrome instead), and easy remote access (but Plex Cloud dependent).
The only thing Plex has that Emby & Jellyfin don’t, that I think is pretty neat, is the combining of multiple servers in one library UI. That’s it. And even then you can use Moonfin or Kodi clients, or Jellyswarrm in the stack, and that feature is FOSS too.
lokalhorst@feddit.org
on 22 May 15:00
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I think the price hike is from June or July 1
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
on 22 May 15:09
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Oh yeah, ty
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
on 22 May 15:57
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I also only paid 70€ for my Lifetime Plex, some 10 years ago. That was definitely worth it and continues to be, but this increase is pretty clearly a soft end for the lifetime licenses.
The only thing Plex has that Emby & Jellyfin don’t, that I think is pretty neat, is the combining of multiple servers in one library UI. That’s it.
For myself I can access jellyfin from my tailnet, but Plex also makes secure sharing with friends and family over the internet simple.
You also get their OTA broadcast guide for free with plex pass. I doubt anyone else will ever offer that. The cheapest option I know of is HDHomerun’s for $35/year.
With those two things I suspect I’ll be sticking with Plex (if not exclusively) until they go out of business.
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750 ways to leave your lover
thats great but
could you please explain the 750 ways?
Just get a new rack Jack
Install the 'arr stack
Cancel your sub bub
Set your self free
I don’t get who this product is for in a universe where Jellyfin exists.
Plex Pass certainly has functionality and features that jellyfin doesn’t; just not $750 worth…
Because Jellyfin did not exist back then and does not have feature parity today? But I know you just wanted to show everyone how smart you are for using Jellyfin…
Not at all. At least three or four people have said that PLEX has better features, but no one so far has said what features make it worth using or what makes it better. I found that Jellyfin was one of the easiest things to set up once I started my home server. I don’t have any background in tech or IT, I’m just a hobyist.
I went with Jellyfin when I was setting it up because it seemed easier and had a more active support community, but from looking at the two, they seemed basically interchangeable. I’ve never had a reason to look for something else, since Jellyfin works better than most of the corporate apps on my TV. It loads faster, has less lag, and is easier to navigate than Netflix, Disney, Prime, etc. My zero-tech family find it easy enough to use daily.
When I found out Plex charged, I thought that they were actually managing your remote storage or something. What is the market for people who want to pay to access their own files on their own hardware? I genuinely don’t get it. If you want to share it, out of your home network there is always Tailscale or the like.
(Assuming you have a Plex pass):
Setup for Plex isn’t just easier, its basically non existent. Run the exe, point to folder, done. HW encoding just works, transcoding just works, metadata gathering just works.
remote streaming. No need to setup an elaborate VPN scheme and install a client for it on every device you want to have remote access. It just works and even punches through CGNAT and the like
Clients. Plex has a client for every system under the sun. No need for sideloading or anything like that, they are everywhere
UI. Plex has a sane and good looking ui for the streaming client and the admin interface.
–
Jellyfin is not bad, but its just not a replacement for Plex. And the way the devs are acting, I doubt it ever will be
.
People like me who are too stupid to do it ourselves and too afraid of exposing our system to the internet
I’m counting down the days until they revoke all existing lifetime passes. With this change and the recent bitwarden price increases, we’re definitely in the era of being squeezed for every dime from all sides.
Like many others, I bought the lifetime plex pass when it was relatively cheap but switched to jellyfin for personal use years ago. I keep plex running for family members but that’ll stop as soon as the lifetime pass goes away.
Same. And same.
The Bitwarden news is really disappointing. I thought they were me of the “good guys” but it seems that was only the first phase of enshittification. I quite like their services but I’m starting to make my migration plans. 1password seems pretty reputable and their prices are relatively stable.
No loyalty to any brand or service, ever. Take your dollars and your time and your effort to whoever deserves it most. That even includes open source software.
Loyalty to a brand or company never made sense to me. Its a relationship or a contract. As soon as they start breaking that contract screw em.
I’ve learned to start looking at alternatives as soon as I get a whiff of venture capital near anything I rely on. I hope I’m wrong but this is probably just the start of the downfall of bitwarden.
I’m on vaultwarden for now and keeping an eye on aliasvault and passbolt.
Yeah, I use VaultWarden for my passwords, but Bitwarden for secret management. There are a lot options for secret management. If necessary I could just host OpenBao on my NAS.
Before Plex, I was on XBMC (Kodi for the youngsters); I had moved to XMBC because PlayOn turned their “Lifetime License” to a third-tier option.
In my opinion they should have just discontinued the lifetime sub instead of the ridiculous pricing and bad press.
Would definitely have been the more honest approach
archive.org/details/commercials-clean
Who else is going to mess with their families and friends with this?
Hah. Saving this for later
I can’t find the video anymore but I remember someone recreating retro cable TV using dizquetv and an RPi (maybe just for the “receiver”). Searching now, I mostly find that ErsatzTV and FieldStation42 seem to be the goto options. I keep bouncing the idea around of setting up actual “channels” for Jellyfin, complete with silly self-recorded ads/bumps/promos/etc, but haven’t decided on a solution.
If you’re already doing so, do you have any insights? At a glance, ErsatzTV Next appears the most dynamic but also most barebones in that focus is mainly on the streaming. Library management and station programming looks to be external, which would mean having to roll my own scripts or whatever.
There was a great channell that uploaded hours and hours lf recovered advertisements and it was really cool. I hate ads but a lot of the companies were dead so it was more nostalgic and interesting than anything.
There was also a dude who took all te youtube videos that were auto uploaded from te first iphone under the same generic name and created a random clipshow.
I’m not 100% sold on running actual ads although, if I recreated Nickelodeon, it might be fun to throw in commercials for stuff like Gak or the old Stick Stickley bits (provided I could find those). Maybe roll my own Snick and Nick-at-Nite blocks. For the latter it’d be neat to have some more period-correct stuff - even if it’s just Fred Flintstone hocking cigarettes or whatever.
I’d probably need to significantly expand my storage and media collection to make more than a couple channels doable. Definitely a bunch of bumps, “coming up next,” etc if I want to keep a strict 15/30/60 type schedule. And a 24/7 weather channel with the old WeatherStar 4000 style.
If you find the channel, let us know. I’d probably be keen to pull at least a handful of old adverts for padding.
As someone who paid around £120 for Emby lifetime: What the fuck
Of course, Plex really don’t seem to realise they are a laughing stock in this community.
Plex kind of beats Jellyfin in: music player support (but I believe in separate dedicated services rather than a jack-of-all-trades, so I’d recommend Navidrome instead), and easy remote access (but Plex Cloud dependent).
The only thing Plex has that Emby & Jellyfin don’t, that I think is pretty neat, is the combining of multiple servers in one library UI. That’s it. And even then you can use Moonfin or Kodi clients, or Jellyswarrm in the stack, and that feature is FOSS too.
I think the price hike is from June or July 1
Oh yeah, ty
I also only paid 70€ for my Lifetime Plex, some 10 years ago. That was definitely worth it and continues to be, but this increase is pretty clearly a soft end for the lifetime licenses.
For myself I can access jellyfin from my tailnet, but Plex also makes secure sharing with friends and family over the internet simple.
You also get their OTA broadcast guide for free with plex pass. I doubt anyone else will ever offer that. The cheapest option I know of is HDHomerun’s for $35/year.
With those two things I suspect I’ll be sticking with Plex (if not exclusively) until they go out of business.
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